Movado inquiry

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Hi guys,

I am considering to buy the Movado below. The seller asks €2k which appears astronomical to me. Any thoughts on condition and price, please? The crown is unsigned.
 
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Looks very crisp but why is that model interesting at all for 2k? Is there something special here I am missing?
 
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My interest is more Movado M90/95 chrono's but when searching for them I see a lot of non-chrono's so I have some knowledge but this deal feels a bit too clean for me.
 
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Looks very crisp but why is that model interesting at all for 2k? Is there something special here I am missing?
I think it's one of the most attractive time only watches that I've ever seen so I'm down to pay a fair price. It's just 2k feels disproportionate so I share your sentiment!
My interest is more Movado M90/95 chrono's but when searching for them I see a lot of non-chrono's so I have some knowledge but this deal feels a bit too clean for me.
There's another picture with better white balance, as well as side and back. It is advertised as NOS.
 
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I guess it could be NOS, if the crown is original. Do you know if that crown is correct for the watch? Personally, I can't see wasting time on this since I wouldn't pay anything close to that asking price, but if you think you are within striking distance of a price you're happy with, it would be worth your time to do the research.
 
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I guess it could be NOS, if the crown is original. Do you know if that crown is correct for the watch? Personally, I can't see wasting time on this since I wouldn't pay anything close to that asking price, but if you think you are within striking distance of a price you're happy with, it would be worth your time to do the research.
The information online is very very limited because it is just a Movado without a name. But most of these seem to have a 'top hat' crown.
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Nice watch. The crown is unlikely to be original, and the seller is dreaming re: the asking price.
 
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To me in NOS condition this is a 800-1000 euro watch.

I actually have a Movado with the same case. It houses a cal. 531 movement which I personally really like. Mine has different dial and hands though. The case is absolutely lovely with the thick and lovely lugs. Also, mine has a signed crown which I believe to be original.

I'll take some pics tomorrow.
 
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Agreed, nice watch for sure, but a 2K price is just cloud cuckoo land.
 
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Everything this Instagram/eBay seller lists is NOS and often listed as “never worn” such as this watch below


Their prices are always through the roof with the above picture being listed at €6k and if you have watched long enough, you’ll see the astronomically priced pieces rarely ever move.
 
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Thanks a lot folks. I declined the offer.
I actually have a Movado with the same case. It houses a cal. 531 movement which I personally really like. Mine has different dial and hands though. The case is absolutely lovely with the thick and lovely lugs. Also, mine has a signed crown which I believe to be original.

I'll take some pics tomorrow.
I look very much forward to it! My hunt for this kind of dress watch is on, so I hope to learn from your example.
 
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Everything this Instagram/eBay seller lists is NOS and often listen as “never worn” such as this watch below


Their prices are always through the roof with the above picture being listed at €6k and if you have watched long enough, you’ll see the pieces rarely ever move.
Remarkably I bought my Eterna-Matic chronometer from the same seller and I was very content with the price I ended up paying (nowhere near 2k!), given the condition and the fact that I hadn't ever seen one of these before. I take NOS claims and the like with a spoonful of salt, but sometimes condition speaks for itself.
 
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Ok, so I realize now that the my watch has a slightly different case compared to the watch in the original post.

My watch has a 15163 case with a cal. 531 automatic movement.

I believe the the case of the watch in your example is very similar but slightly different as it is made for a different movement. I believe the shown small second version uses a cal. 115 bumper automatic. From the front the case appears to be the same however from the back the bumper case has a protrusion to support the crown (and I guess to aid manual winding). Other than that the case looks strikingly similar.

So I guess the watch shown above is an earlier example, maybe mid to late 50s. Mine appears to be early 60s.

The quality of the case is very nice, just note that there are no gaskets or other efforts to make it water resistant.

The diameter of the case is 34.5mm. Strap is 18mm.

Here is my watch:

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Ok, so I realize now that the my watch has a slightly different case compared to the watch in the original post.

My watch has a 15163 case with a cal. 531 automatic movement.

I believe the the case of the watch in your example is very similar but slightly different as it is made for a different movement. I believe the shown small second version uses a cal. 115 bumper automatic. From the front the case appears to be the same however from the back the bumper case has a protrusion to support the crown (and I guess to aid manual winding). Other than that the case looks strikingly similar.

So I guess the watch shown above is an earlier example, maybe mid to late 50s. Mine appears to be early 60s.

The quality of the case is very nice, just note that there are no gaskets or other efforts to make it water resistant.

The diameter of the case is 34.5mm. Strap is 18mm.

Here is my watch:

Great piece, thanks for sharing! Particularly since there is very little information on them.
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One more thing to add for future reference, it seems the bumper automatic version uses case reference 18463.

The rotor-wound automatic (cal. 531) uses case reference 15163.

There are some similar references in 18k (case ref. 8463) which may come with gold guilloche dials.

The only doubt I have is whether or not the lugs on the 18k version have the same width as the steel versions. Could be that they do, it is just that many examples online are very polished. On the steel 15163 the lugs measure 2.5mm in width (case size 34.5).

I feel the relatively wide lugs are one of the most appealing characteristics of this watch actually.
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From the front the case appears to be the same however from the back the bumper case has a protrusion to support the crown (and I guess to aid manual winding).
It's a pity they didn't bother with a threaded back! Snap on backs are such a shortcut IMO.
There are some similar references in 18k (case ref. 8463) which may come with gold guilloche dials.
Ah yes, those are charming. There are a couple of examples readily available online at decent prices. Do you know if the dials are solid gold, too?
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I feel the relatively wide lugs are one of the most appealing characteristics of this watch actually.
I fully agree. Are you able to post a top-down picture if your watch, like the gold one above?

On the subject of relatively wide straight lugs: I did some digging in my personal archives because I realized that I owned two Eternas with similar case design, at least top-down. It's just the Eternas have a sloped lug downward from the center, opposed to the Movados which have straight lugs, and they are teardrop shaped en profile and not hollow like the Movado. The Eternas' are also too wide IMO, which is emphasized by the slope down.
 
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It's a pity they didn't bother with a threaded back! Snap on backs are such a shortcut IMO.

Yes, or at least they could have put a gasket inside. As I mentioned, there are no gaskets anywhere (caseback, bezel or crown), so it is a pretty fragile watch.

Ah yes, those are charming. There are a couple of examples readily available online at decent prices. Do you know if the dials are solid gold, too?

As far as I know they are solid 18k gold but I've never actually seen one myself.

I fully agree. Are you able to post a top-down picture if your watch, like the gold one above?

Here you go:



On the subject of relatively wide straight lugs: I did some digging in my personal archives because I realized that I owned two Eternas with similar case design, at least top-down. It's just the Eternas have a sloped lug downward from the center, opposed to the Movados which have straight lugs, and they are teardrop shaped en profile and not hollow like the Movado. The Eternas' are also too wide IMO, which is emphasized by the slope down.

These are really cool! I love how they look from the side. 👍