More COSD Transplant and tragically one less watch.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

This watch case ^2123 was flagged as unoriginal.

So someone bought ^2123 and bought the below Dennison COSD

Relumed the dial or found another dial and hands and put it in case ^2123

And technically it is still wrong because it ideally should with that case now have a MoD dial no lumen and no lumen hands. Also, this is a minor point but to me big, the case crystal is no longer the thicker domed dive wide flange plexi these cases are equipped with. It has a ordinary top hat semi dome pressure fit replacement plexi so the top of the case and inside retainers have also been taken apart.

And, knowing Ando-san, probably paid well into the $10,000 and over price for watch built out of multiple donors (good or bad). This watch should not be used for tracking re-issued watches.

size11s · Sep 18, 2023

It's odd that I never see the cast off Dennison 13322 cases from these transplants, of which I suspect there are quite a few, crop up on eBay. I have had a saved search for many years and not seen one, either empty or with a transplanted dial and movement.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

size11s
It's odd that I never see the cast off Dennison 13322 cases from these transplants, of which I suspect there are quite a few, crop up on eBay. I have had a saved search for many years and not seen one, either empty or with a transplanted dial and movement.

Just out of curiosity, what would you put into a cast off Dennison 13322 former COSD case?
Maybe most of these people were all thinking that no one would want these empty cases? I certainly don't have the imagination to come up with a repurpose scenario. First watch that comes to my mind is a "24 hour Longines" watch surely will have the original reference so would not make sense in a Dennison case and since the asking prices for those have started to get close to $1000 they are better off in the original 24 hour cases.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

This is probably more of a minor issue, but it also changes the appearances of the watch to have a really wrong type of crystal on the watch in my personal opinion.

These types of plexi are wrong.

Correct plexi, note the thickness of this plexi vs common plexi to resist breakage underwater pressure.

w154 · Sep 18, 2023

Damn that crystal is ugly ! Nice detective work to figure out the donors. I wouldn’t mind so much if there was disclosure, but like you say some clues are there from the mismatch between the early dial and the later small crown.

size11s · Sep 18, 2023

Seiji, there are lots of other Longines that come in the 13322 case, in plated, s/s and gold, with all versions of the 12.68 movement in them and many different dials, the vast majority marked Baume inside the case back. It certainly isn't limited only to housing/rehousing the COSD or BOAC, although they are generally the only ones that have fixed strap bars.

size11s · Sep 18, 2023

Here is my grandfather's Longines in a s/s Dennison 13322.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

w154
Damn that crystal is ugly ! Nice detective work to figure out the donors. I wouldn’t mind so much if there was disclosure, but like you say some clues are there from the mismatch between the early dial and the later small crown.

Actually I think this is a common problem.
Three more with radium dials and MoD re-issued cases. I doubt these left the MoD this way.

This one I suspect has other issues until we look at the extract for it. Dial is obviously civilian.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

https://www.mwrforum.net/forums/sho...-April-13-2022&p=390738&viewfull=1#post390738

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

The loss of this watch is a bit of a shame in a way. Such a great foot note in Highlander history and it's now in a tin can with the case likely in a dump.

Here is some of the history of the Royal Caledonia School. And it lives on with the Royal Caledonian Education Trust in existance today.

Prince Philip? I think the caption says Duke of Edinbugh in Spanish.

Princess Royal.

w154 · Sep 18, 2023

Seiji
The loss of this watch is a bit of a shame in a way.

Yes it’s a shame but it’s just a result of market forces. In an ideal world, these donors with “interesting post-COSD use” would have their Dennison cases kept together with the Tuna-cans that they were transplanted into, but that would mean transparency and not all dealers/sellers are into that.

Lépine · Sep 18, 2023

Just tragic, the watch has so much more history than a forgotten beach landing that no one knows where it even happened verses something absolutely concrete history.