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  1. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 19, 2015

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    What unholy marketing meeting might have yielded this?

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    The dial is clearly repainted, but how do we explain the bridge in this legit cal 146HP?

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    http://www.ebay.com/itm/70s-ZENITH-...215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f4b1a673fPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    For our foreign readers, Montgomery Ward was a popular mail order and department store business, like Sears. No history with watches, much less with Zenith, AFAIK
     
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  2. Drawarms Apr 19, 2015

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    wow, good find. what a clown!
     
  3. everestx Apr 19, 2015

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    This reminded me of a couple of watches so I just dug the LeGant out to take a better look at it.

    I sold a ladies Patek Philippe years ago that was sold through Montgomery Wards in the 40's and even included in their catalog. I also have a LeGant chronograph that was marketed and sold through Montgomery Wards. Supposedly the LeGant line was their answer to "Elegant" watches.

    LeGant Chronograph.jpg LeGant Valjoux 7733.jpg PP Montgomery Ward.jpg MW Catalog PP.jpg
     
  4. Interstatetime Apr 20, 2015

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    My dear Lou,

    Actually Montgomery Ward had quite a history with watches. Sears and Roebuck actually started out as a watch business. They sold private label watches from the late 1800s through their entire history. At the beginning Sears watches were pocket watches mostly made by the Illinois Watch Company of Springfield, Illinois. Later Sears even sold Heuer made wrist watches. Here is a link to a Sears watch made in 1911.

    http://interstatetime.com/PrivateLabels/Interstate_Big.htm

    Montgomery Ward also had a long tradition of selling private label watches. Here is another link to some very early examples.

    http://interstatetime.com/WatchOTM/WatchOTM-7-02.htm

    I think it is perfectly reasonable to think that Zenith made private label watches for Monkey Ward.

    JohnCote
     
  5. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Apr 20, 2015

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    and that's why you need real historical perspective. Thanks, JC
     
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  6. jfwoodman Apr 25, 2015

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    Sad to say I can't tell that the dial is repainted, what am I missing, Lou?
     
  7. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jan 5, 2016

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  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jan 5, 2016

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    Actually, I think it would be the other way around.

    I would not be surprised if there were specific Zenith/Movado models (or color combinations) made only for Montgomery Ward.
    gatorcpa
     
  9. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jan 5, 2016

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    I would have completely fallen for the dial too. The bridge did look like it somehow had to be legit, but the engraving on the inside case back looks incredibly crude.
     
  10. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Jan 5, 2016

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    Case back pics

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  11. The Master of Speed Aug 5, 2016

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    I found this beauty

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  12. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 5, 2016

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    My Dad subcontracted for Montgomery Wards in his second career after aerospace started cutting back in the '60s. Amazing to see the giants that have fallen. Perhaps some day your kids will say,"I remember giant Amazon that existed when I was a kid"
     
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  13. The Master of Speed Aug 18, 2018

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    recently found the original brochure

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  14. auxpomme Aug 18, 2018

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    The jcpenny here has a used Rolex counter in the jewelry department now.
     
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  15. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 18, 2018

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    Damn shame.
     
  16. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Aug 19, 2018

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  17. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Aug 19, 2018

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    Montgomery Ward is a hero to anyone who enjoys the glory that is the Chicago shoreline. Were it not for him and a few other visionaries, there would be no beaches and parks.
     
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  18. bazamu wincer, not a bidder Aug 19, 2018

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    Here here! Feel like I need to buy one to pay him back for all my memories on the shoreline.
     
  19. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Aug 19, 2018

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    Am I the only thinking it’s 100% legit?
     
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  20. LouS Mrs Nataf's Other Son Staff Member Aug 19, 2018

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    It has to be legit. No forger would dare such a bad pun as a brand name. ::facepalm2::