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Hi all!
Very new member to the forum, not sure how it works, but I've followed a few very detailed threads, and reckon this is the place where Omega experts hang out!
I have been collecting watches for about 10 years and have been having a clear out recently as I have/had over 2 dozen watches, and only ever wore 3 of them on a regular basis, I'm now down to under a dozen and it's getting tricky to decide what to lose and what to keep.
I have 2 WW1 omega trench watches and a WW2 Omega. Dirty Dozen maybe? I bought it in Hong Kong about 5 years ago and the last 2 pics have all the info that came with the watch, but I've seen other watches that have a case on the back with lugs? So not sure....
I was hoping for some advice and information I can include in an ad as I intend to sell them.
Any suggestions/advice/offers welcome!
Thanks in advance.
Ben.
 
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Definiitely keep the trench in the Omega case. The other, meh, but no reason to dump it if you like it. I am not qualified to comment on the WWII piece, but iti looks like its hands were replaced. The dial looks refinished to me, too. Not surprising in the Asian market.
 
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"WW2" Omega = Fake Omega. Pay attention to the laser engraved back . A bit early for Laser of any form..
 
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"WW2" Omega = Fake Omega. Pay attention to the laser engraved back . A bit early for Laser of any form..

But it is an Omega movement, or?
 
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But it is an Omega movement, or?

yes, but made to look WW2 Dirty Dozen
 
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I see nothing suggesting any of those are genuine military issue.
 
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Many people do not realize that, at least in the US, very few watches were actually issued. I am aware of two use cases: highly-jeweled watches from a few manufacturers for the US Signal Corps, and seven-jewel Elgins for Artillery. The rest were personal purchase either at home or overseas.
 
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In the US, gillions of Bulova, Hamilton and Elgin ww/pw's were issued for WWII, Grunts got the chrome and officers could request Silver.
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In the US, gillions of Bulova, Hamilton and Elgin ww/pw's were issued for WWII, Grunts got the chrome and officers could request Silver.
Sorry, I forgot to mention was talking about the Great War, not the one that followed it. You are indeed correct.
 
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"WW2" Omega = Fake Omega. Pay attention to the laser engraved back . A bit early for Laser of any form..

It looks stamped to me. You can see where the case has been deformed around the edges of the letters/numbers.

Not that it adds any "WWW" authenticity whatsoever.

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"WW2" Omega = Fake Omega. Pay attention to the laser engraved back . A bit early for Laser of any form..

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Hi,
Thanks for all the info.
The ww2 era? Watch has a stamped back, but no lugs. Definitely not etched
 
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Sorry, I forgot to mention was talking about the Great War, not the one that followed it. You are indeed correct.




Ah, WWI...yes......

Only 40 of the pocket watches are documented.

Mine is 992


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Ah, WWI...yes......

Only 40 of the pocket watches are documented.

Mine is 992

Of course it is, that's the caliber number. 😀
 
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Only 2 questions. How does an alleged WWII watch have a 16M serial number? Wouldn’t that be mid 1950’s? Never mind no one has to answer.
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Only 2 questions. How does a supposed WWII watch have a 16M serial number? Wouldn’t that be mid 1950’s?
That is the alleged WWII watch.
 
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Was being sarcastic? Asking a moot question? Sorry, don’t know the real term for it. But I will change “supposed” to “alleged”
 
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Was being sarcastic? Asking a moot question? Sorry, don’t know the real term for it. But I will change “supposed” to “alleged”
You're good, I missed you typing WWII, I read it as WWI.

Damn, I'm getting old and inattentive.
 
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Of course it is, that's the caliber number. 😀



Yes, grade 992 AND #992 of the run......which is kinda cool to have



The specification states above......001 to 1000


"Grade" in US and caliber in Europe/Canada & others and stamped on the movement.
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Yes, grade 992 AND #992 of the run......which is kinda cool to have



The specification states above......001 to 1000


"Grade" in US and caliber in Europe/Canada & others and stamped on the movement.
I... wow. What're the odds?

Yes, 1 in 1000, but still. 😀
 
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