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  1. omegaman Oct 21, 2018

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  2. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Oct 21, 2018

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    Bad link for me.
     
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  3. Baz9614 Oct 21, 2018

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    Bad link for me as well
     
  4. omegaman Oct 22, 2018

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    Trying to help with a screen from the auction catalogue
     
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  6. greenecollector Oct 23, 2018

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    First impression is it looks like a nice watch but as always, would need to be closely checked in person.

    The T, after seeing bigger images on MWR does look inconsistent with the 'fine' T as the top bar is too wide.

    Estimate is maybe a bit high, and particularly if the dial is wrong.
     
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  7. omegaman Oct 24, 2018

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  8. greenecollector Oct 25, 2018

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    You're right, values have been up & down without any real consistency.

    I think more than £20K, by the time you added all fees etc was optimistic for that particular W10...the case looked very over polished…
     
  9. greenecollector Oct 25, 2018

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    Additionally I don't see the SM300 getting anywhere near to the level of the Milsub in terms of value or collector interest.
    Whilst it's use in terms of service is equal the Rolex has a lot more to offer.
    For a start Rolex is pretty much at the top of the tree in terms of vintage watch 'hotness', the watches have tightly defined serial groups, inner caseback markings (so you know your issue number matches the case), verification in many cases from Rolex via Hudson letter (no longer, true, but still), unique ref numbers never for public sale (5513/5517 & 5517) and they have been heavily researched & documented.
    Then you get to the watch itself and you have possibly the world's most popular, iconic watch, modified by Rolex themselves (not the MOD) to meet a military contract with a unique look, and reference, and it all adds up to a watch that's easily able to be 'hyped' to command the figures they do.‎
     
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  10. CesarCO Oct 25, 2018

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    Still even with the above, in my view, it just does not justify the gap. But with all, this is very subjective. As long as you like what you buy and are content with what you pay, all good.

    The only mistake here is buying thinking watches are an investment. My humble view of course.
     
  11. greenecollector Oct 25, 2018

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    Yes, and I think it is the perceived investment part that has driven the value of the Milsub so high.

    I was at a GTG earlier in the year and there were many folk with Milsubs, and very good ones too, a large number however had bought them not because they were interested in military watches in any sense, simply because it was the 'grail watch' they had to have...closely followed, or equalled by the PN Daytona...

    However, your statement 'as long as you like what you buy and are content with what you pay, all good' is 100% true, be it £1k or £100k!
     
  12. omegaman Oct 25, 2018

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    Good point :thumbsup:
     
  13. watchlovr Oct 26, 2018

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    Agreed.
    Nice to have both though!
     
  14. Llewis123 Nov 3, 2018

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    Hammered at 35k
     
  15. greenecollector Nov 3, 2018

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    Did it actually sell?
     
  16. Llewis123 Nov 3, 2018

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    Yes having trouble adding link
     
  17. greenecollector Nov 4, 2018

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    Thanks.

    The strange market for these continues then...after a few low or no sales there is then another high...with fees that must be over £45k?...for a watch with a T none of us were confident in...
     
  18. Boony Nov 4, 2018

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    The key is it has the right movement and therefore a good extract. The case and case back is good. The key would be to see inside the case back which should have a double signed reference. But a nice watch. I bought one 10 years ago for about 4 grand but when I went for the extract it came back as a replacement movement. The case was correct as was the case back. Shame. Sold it for similar money a few years ago to a buyer that I made aware of the back story.
     
  19. greenecollector Nov 4, 2018

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  20. CesarCO Nov 5, 2018

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    As to what many may think, for me, the key is not the movement but everything else on the watch. The movement could have been easily replaced during service so as long as it is within range should be ok. What cannot be changed is the case (fixed bars), caseback markings and dial.

    In this case, the watch had all the right details apart from the T, which is different than other known examples, so could have been added later.

    But it is true that after some softer sales, on different examples, this one has again sold at the average threshold if not a bi higher with fees.
     
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