Lost S/N 43, Apollo 11, 50 years ago

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To whom this may concern, I have a copy of the list of NASA Speedmaster’s 1977 archive that were shipped to the Smithsonian. “ s/n 43 “LOST by Aldrin”, Never recovered by NASA. It includes the complete transfer information of that day. It is also my understanding that the Smithsonian has the Historical cards of All the Speedmaster’s used. This would mean that they should have and know the correct movement numbers of said watches. I have other unseen archives as well. It’s been years of questionably allegations and statements in regards to the watch and myself. For example I did not state that I had in my possession the Speedmaster used on Apollo 11, it was the FBI that showed up at my door demanding that I give them my watch. Claiming that I may have stolen the watch and ask me to do a lie detector test. I showed the FBI agent the copy of the archive “Lost By Aldrin Never recovered by NASA” with my hired criminal attorney, and the FBI agent stated, They did not care about the truth and that they only wanted the watch. I did offer to do a lie detector test although only with an outside company and They had no interest in that. I was just trying to research the archive like a lot of your readers. At this point it was time and the only reason I hired an civil attorney and filed a lawsuit. Its now nearly 50 years since the Moon Landing and it’s high time to clear the air. The government accounting office investigated Aldrin in regards to the loss.(archives to prove this statement) Aldrin even confirms this in his book of the investigation , as well as being on the beach in the Santa Barbara Ca area. Myself, my attorney, Buzz Aldrin, his Attorney, met at the Smithsonian with Amanda Young(curator) the government attorneys for a meeting. Amanda Young exposed an archive that in fact Aldrins watch number 23 was “Stolen”. If you have interest in all the sides of a story you may contact me. Sincerely, Steve Morley.
 
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the FBI agent stated, They did not care about the truth and that they only wanted the watch.
The FBI doesn't talk like that. You sound like a moron.
 
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So your saying you have SN43? I want to be clear in what you are stating.

Many of us have more complete records of the watches then the document you show.
 
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And the purpose of starting no this thread was.... ???

Yawn..,
 
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Registered over two years ago. This is OP’s FIRST POST and it’s a beauty ha ha ha.

I do not even understand what the post is for or trying to achieve in getting across.

Ahh excellent! Microwave just went ding....

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His watch has a small 43 on it. It does not match the normal NASA engravings. Hence NASA has determined it is not the actual piece.

I am not sure why he is trying to claim that it is, as if it was it would be US Government property.

Just loves visits from G-men?
 
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This is like one of those phone calls you get where you owe the IRS money and are coming to get you and the guy on the other end of the line barely speaks English.
 
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Sounds to me like OP wants to (at least) tell his story and to show his watch even though it's not Buzz's, on the eve of the Apollo 11 50th anniversary ... 🍿
 
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Cerca Trova ... If there's any moment to choose, 2019 is the year to find & resurface that chronograph
 
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was there really a s/n#23? it could be before apollo project.
 
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And the purpose of starting no this thread was.... ???

Yawn..,
kkt kkt
Just loves visits from G-men?
was there really a s/n#23? it could be before apollo project.
H.R.4158 - To confirm full ownership rights for certain United States astronauts to artifacts from the astronauts' space missions.112th Congress (2011-2012)
 
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H.R.4158 - To confirm full ownership rights for certain United States astronauts to artifacts from the astronauts' space missions.112th Congress (2011-2012)

The summary below was written by the Congressional Research Service, which is a nonpartisan division of the Library of Congress.

9/25/2012--Public Law. Grants a U.S. astronaut who participated in any of the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo programs through the completion of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, and who received an artifact during his participation, full ownership of and clear title to that artifact.

Defines "artifact" as any expendable item utilized in missions for the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo programs through the completion of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project not expressly required to be returned to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) at the completion of the mission and other expendable, disposable, or personal-use items utilized by such an astronaut during participation in any such program, excluding lunar rocks and other lunar material.

Prohibits the federal government from having any claim or right to ownership, control, or use of: (1) any artifact in the possession of such an astronaut; or (2) any such artifact that was subsequently transferred, sold, or assigned to a third party by such an astronaut.
 
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The summary below was written by the Congressional Research Service, which is a nonpartisan division of the Library of Congress.

9/25/2012--Public Law. Grants a U.S. astronaut who participated in any of the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo programs through the completion of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, and who received an artifact during his participation, full ownership of and clear title to that artifact.

Defines "artifact" as any expendable item utilized in missions for the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo programs through the completion of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project not expressly required to be returned to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) at the completion of the mission and other expendable, disposable, or personal-use items utilized by such an astronaut during participation in any such program, excluding lunar rocks and other lunar material.

Prohibits the federal government from having any claim or right to ownership, control, or use of: (1) any artifact in the possession of such an astronaut; or (2) any such artifact that was subsequently transferred, sold, or assigned to a third party by such an astronaut.

The watches where expressly returned and considered part of the kit like space suit gloves. Watches are not considered expendables. H nice the serial numbers and all other watches returned to nasa.

Fact is you don’t have an NASA issued piece, and if you did you can’t sell it as such as you would be admitting you don’t have ownership.

But sure let’s see this magical watch. Pictures?
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