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  1. jnash Mar 5, 2019

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    I have a new moon watch and that has got me bitten. i saw a old version of the speed master and im looking for a nice idea.

    i have a possible purchase in line but i would like some advice, what with a watch being old i understand that replacements can ruin the value of the watch. ive also looked online and the prices vay from aroun 4k upwards, i have some pictures, what should i be looking for.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. Gav1967 Tend not to fret too much Mar 5, 2019

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    Edit photos now available
     
  3. jnash Mar 5, 2019

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    Ive uploaded them them now directly, shoud be ok now thanks
     
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  4. Davidt Mar 5, 2019

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    Speedmaster101.net will give you a great starting point.

    It’s also impirtto specify currency when giving prices as this is a global forum.
     
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  5. OMEGuy Mar 5, 2019

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    As far as I can tell from your pics, the watch looks ok, maybe service pushers and the crown is wrong. The bracelet is not matching.

    But it looks all genuine to me.

    If you can get it for a good price, then get it.
     
  6. jnash Mar 5, 2019

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    What sort of prices are classed as a good one, I'm based in the UK. Would need a service too
     
  7. Davidt Mar 5, 2019

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    Price chart in the website quoted above.

    If you’re looking into vintage Speedmasters you need to have a good hour or two on that site.
     
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  8. jnash Mar 6, 2019

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    thanks, lots of useful information on that website, bit confused on the price list based on not having the watch in hand, but very useful nonetheless. thanks
     
  9. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 6, 2019

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    www.speedmaster101.com
    www.sp101.net for those with lazy fingers!
     
  10. Matth84 Mar 6, 2019

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    What do you think about the hands of this one? I think they are replaced since they are really white. I almost needed my sunglasses to see the pictures.

    Matth
     
  11. Spacefruit Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder Mar 6, 2019

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    If you buy that watch for 4000 anything’s, then you are doing well.

    Bearing in mind I have seen good Ed Whites sell for £15,000 and big auction watches can get more, this one would be cheap at £4000 even with its problems.

    Problems are the poor condition bezel, and the dial which is bit untidy but not bad at all - perhaps made to appear worse under the marked crystal. Correct close spaced T’s. Its not going to be a top dial, but I think it will be ok

    Case is hard to judge from the photos but the back looks crisp.

    Bracelet is a nice looking 1171 which would be coveted by several owners of early 70’s speedmasters.

    I cannot fully get to grips with the crown and pushers - better photos and more time on my part needed, but I would not rely on them being correct, the same goes for the hands.

    However those can be corrected at a sympathetic service : www.simonfreesewatchmakers.com is who I use but I also use www.swisstimeservices.com, but the latter is a bit more pricey.

    To sum up, its a fair buyable watch at a price. I doubt you will get it at an open auction for £4000 - there would be too many buyers to compete with you. But if it is a private sale snatch their hands off.

    The real skill in this market is to find the right price for a watch like this. Pay too much and you will be bothered by the faults, but pay the right price and you will have a rewarding attractive watch - its faults off set by the price paid.

    Its all very well crying condition condition condition but not everyone wants to wear a perfect Ed White worth 15-20k when they could have one for (say) $7,000 - 10,000. Still crazy money for a discretionary purchase I grant you, but if you knock the cheaper watch in wear its unlikely to lose value, where as the expensive one might make you cry if you damage it.

    Do not ask me which one to buy, I bought both - but I wear the cheap one more!
     
  12. OMEGuy Mar 6, 2019

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    Yes, obviously they were replaced, but I didn't have the feeling I should better put on my sunglasses...
     
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  13. jnash Mar 7, 2019

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    Thank you very much for the info, based on this information i will go for it, anything to look out for when i pick it up? currently reading up on anything i can ! - very exciting!
     
  14. jnash Mar 8, 2019

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    So I bit the bullet, what do you guys think, better pics. I'll have the back open once I get home . Thanks in advance IMG_20190308_141126.jpg IMG_20190308_141051.jpg IMG_20190308_141035.jpg IMG_20190308_140149.jpg
     
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  15. boogedyboo Mar 8, 2019

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    That dial looks great :thumbsup:
     
  16. jnash Mar 8, 2019

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    thanks, pretty happy with it - waiting till i get home to check it out properly, already like it more than my 2018 moon watch
     
  17. DotOverNine Mar 8, 2019

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    Nice! very exciting! =)
     
  18. Matth84 Mar 12, 2019

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    :D