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looking at a seamaster 14704 cal 591 with worn rotor

Freddedw
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aparently the rotor is worn and it makes noice when winding, is it servicable for a decent amount of money?
otherwise the watch looks good maybe a bot polished? what should the price range for the watch be with such a fault?
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Freddedw
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Not more than the watch if worth, if it cost 200€ to fix it and its worth 400€ its ok then i know how much i willing to buy it for. So it this an expensive fix? Is there a bushing that a watchguy can get hold of to change or do i need a complete "weight"? Aka a spare caliber?
 
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Freddedw Freddedw
Not more than the watch if worth, if it cost 200€ to fix it and its worth 400€ its ok then i know how much i willing to buy it for. So it this an expensive fix? Is there a bushing that a watchguy can get hold of to change or do i need a complete "weight"? Aka a spare caliber?

Pinion for the rotor is available from Omega, so of your watchmaker has a parts account, they can order it. If they don't, then they would have to find it somewhere on the open market.

Keep in mind that the cost to service and repair these has little relation to what the watch is worth. In my experience watches where the rotor pinion is worn, tend to have been worn a lot without service, and can need many other parts replaced. The pinion alone is about 30 Euros, and if you start adding in a bunch of other parts that might be needed, that cost the same or more, it won't take long before you have nothing left to cover the labour. 200 Euro is low for an expected service cost on this watch in my view.
 
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Ok well i just grabbed a number, its all down to what the watch bid ends up in the end i guess. But then ill probably shuld not go over 2-300€ for the watch? Otherwise i can just as well get a decent good working one instead of this one?
 
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Also worth noting that this case, 14704, wears just a little smaller at 33.5mm as compared to a 166.003 at 34.5mm.
 
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Freddedw Freddedw
Ok well i just grabbed a number, its all down to what the watch bid ends up in the end i guess. But then ill probably shuld not go over 2-300€ for the watch? Otherwise i can just as well get a decent good working one instead of this one?

You won't get a stainless Seamaster like this for 300 Euros, even if it needs some work. Most collectors expect that they will be paying for some repairs and a service.
 
Freddedw
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ok so what is a resonable price for this one at this point it works as is, and to me in a honest state. some markings service maybe -98?
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Spruce
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I’d expect you to pay £400 - 600 for a nice example
 
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My 14704 with a 591 movement, bought on eBay for £400 two years ago

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This Seamaster 14704 caliber 591 was my first vintage purchase in April 2016. I paid $325 for it...and after a $450 trip to my watchmaker, it's been running strong, keeping great time and despite the petite case diameter, it has plenty of wrist presence.
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I definitely paid a bit of the noob tax on this watch, but it holds a special place in my modest collection, and it seems that the market has just about caught up to my investment in it...!
 
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Is that a Certina crown on this watch?
On @Freddedw’s watch, not on mine 😉
 
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jB1128 jB1128
This Seamaster 14704 caliber 591 was my first vintage purchase in April 2016. I paid $325 for it...and after a $450 trip to my watchmaker, it's been running strong, keeping great time and despite the petite case diameter, it has plenty of wrist presence.
IMG_5855.jpg

I definitely paid a bit of the noob tax on this watch, but it holds a special place in my modest collection, and it seems that the market has just about caught up to my investment in it...!
Lovely watch and, with hindsight, well priced. Lovely clear dial and case
 
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One is currently being offered on eBay by the Japanese dealer closer0924 with whom several members seem to have dealt in the past (I have not so far).

https://www.ebay.ch/itm/OMEGA-Seama...ique-Automatic-Mens-Watch-574375/254768390839

It's being offered at USD 698 for your price reference. I was first interested myself but then noticed the smaller case. Don't treat this as a recommendation, as I'm a noob myself. Run it through the experts before buying 😀.
 
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took a chance but did not get it, it went for 270 euro...
 
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