Longines Conquest Deluxe Gold: Value Assessment

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Ok. Recently came to me a Longines Conquest Deluxe!

I was trying to price it, so you have a context:

  • A private collector where I live offered $2.000 and said “melt value basically”
  • Online I found a reputable dealer (checking sold items on EBay) and he offered $2.500 after I send it when he checks it out.
  • I posted something like this on Reddit and consensus was about $3.300-$3.700
  • ChatGPT keeps saying anything from $4.000 to $5.500

So I keep wondering who do you agree with!

It has not been serviced, runs and keeps time.

Please check the pics and let me know.

 
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They're all right, just different perspectives and markets.

The private collector is likely very knowledgeable and has bought them for this or less but hasn't fully factored in how much the gold price has gone up, nor has he seen how much it's pulled prices up.

The dealer I'd be a bit wary of, the send it to me for inspection then $2,500 is often send it to me then find 20 reasons to offer you less, but at that point he has the watch, you've already paid for shipping, and you're likely to agree to a lower price to get the deal completed.

Then coming from the opposite direction, you have chatgpt which is assessing the price based on the asking price of every hopeful seller or dealer on the internet. It's looking at Chrono24 asking prices, eBay buy it now asking prices, not actual selling prices, so it's telling you what some people who have one to let go hope to get.

Real transaction prices are sold listings, no reserve auction results, etc and many dealers will make an effort to hide the reality that a watch listed at $6,000 might have actually sold in the low 5K range.

Reddit is mostly people bouncing in between the Chrono24 asking price, for an example that's been gathering dust in a shop window for 4 years, and some actual recent transactions for the same, or a similar watch.

If you own a London vintage watch shop and Barry, who's dad once owned a Conquest and always wanted one like it in gold comes along, it's an $8,000 watch, but the odds of Barry ever darkening that doorway are extremely low.

If you want to sell it, you list it in a no reserve auction on eBay and you will get the market price, it's literally a feeding frenzy of dealers and collectors pouring over every listing, it's an extremely efficient market, and that will be the current price it is worth.
 
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The above plus use completed sales to calculate your reserve. Beauty of a watch btw. The cloisonné is often damaged on these.
 
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They're all right, just different perspectives and markets.

The private collector is likely very knowledgeable and has bought them for this or less but hasn't fully factored in how much the gold price has gone up, nor has he seen how much it's pulled prices up.

The dealer I'd be a bit wary of, the send it to me for inspection then $2,500 is often send it to me then find 20 reasons to offer you less, but at that point he has the watch, you've already paid for shipping, and you're likely to agree to a lower price to get the deal completed.

Then coming from the opposite direction, you have chatgpt which is assessing the price based on the asking price of every hopeful seller or dealer on the internet. It's looking at Chrono24 asking prices, eBay buy it now asking prices, not actual selling prices, so it's telling you what some people who have one to let go hope to get.

Real transaction prices are sold listings, no reserve auction results, etc and many dealers will make an effort to hide the reality that a watch listed at $6,000 might have actually sold in the low 5K range.

Reddit is mostly people bouncing in between the Chrono24 asking price, for an example that's been gathering dust in a shop window for 4 years, and some actual recent transactions for the same, or a similar watch.

If you own a London vintage watch shop and Barry, who's dad once owned a Conquest and always wanted one like it in gold comes along, it's an $8,000 watch, but the odds of Barry ever darkening that doorway are extremely low.

If you want to sell it, you list it in a no reserve auction on eBay and you will get the market price, it's literally a feeding frenzy of dealers and collectors pouring over every listing, it's an extremely efficient market, and that will be the current price it is worth.
Thanks! That is a great reply! And could not agree more. I don’t know if I am brave enough for a no reserve eBay auction thou!
 
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Then coming from the opposite direction, you have chatgpt which is assessing the price based on the asking price of every hopeful seller or dealer on the internet. It's looking at Chrono24 asking prices, eBay buy it now asking prices, not actual selling prices, so it's telling you what some people who have one to let go hope to get.
I would add that ChatGPT is probably also including listings with gold bracelets.
 
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I agree that the price ChatGPT suggested is something that you could get if very lucky with a just right buyer coming along. But what Reddit suggested is something you should be more easily get a sale.

Just please don't sell it to scrap (or anywhere near scrap price) because it's a wonderful condition watch and deserves more.
 
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I agree that the price ChatGPT suggested is something that you could get if very lucky with a just right buyer coming along. But what Reddit suggested is something you should be more easily get a sale.

Just please don't sell it to scrap (or anywhere near scrap price) because it's a wonderful condition watch and deserves more.
Thanks for the comment! Will do!