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  1. SpeedTar Jun 7, 2016

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    Hi all, i am new on this forum and hope the post wouldn't be duplicate...it seems not but we never know!
    I own some Omega (Speedmaster 105.012, Constellation Pie Pan, Seamaster 2848) and also a Longines Hydroconquest (from 2011...I like this watch as perfect tool watch!)

    Recently i discovered that Longines has produced 36000bph movement (as 431), did someone own one and could give his opinion on accuracy, reliability and on the self winding rotor (I have heard is not really good one) and of course pictures!!!
     
  2. rcs914 Jun 7, 2016

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    They did produce the Ultra-Chron, as it was known, for about 9 years. I don't have one and have no real opinion on it. But the El Primero is (the only?) a 36,000BPH chronograph and is by far the most famous watch that Zenith has produced. You may be aware of this and were really only asking about the 431.
     
  3. SpeedTar Jun 7, 2016

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    Yeah absolutely!!
    I like the Longines watches so i would like to have in collection a Conquest and why not a 36000. Zenith is a nice brand but not attractive to me (except the A386 which is a grail!!). I was also thinking of Seiko KS but not really convinced.
    The Ultra Chron from end of 60's (with a 431) are my target for now
     
  4. knvqn Jun 7, 2016

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  5. SpeedTar Jun 7, 2016

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    thanks, i saw it, but the case design is not what i like :( (=> stainless steel, and round shape)
     
  6. SpeedTar Jun 9, 2016

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    No one owns a 36000bph Longines?
     
  7. khmt2 Jun 9, 2016

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    Plenty of 431 owners here - I have 3 in fact. All seems to work fine and servicing doesn't cost a bomb in spite of claims that due to the movement operating at a hi-beat, special lubrication care is required.

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    The first solid 18k cased is available in the FS sub forum if you're interested. :)
     
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  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 9, 2016

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    Hold out for an Ultra Chron Chronometer:

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    You'll be glad you did.

    Here's a nice one in steel.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/361534336660Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    They're looking for offers.
    gatorcpa
     
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  9. Davudvl Jun 9, 2016

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    Dibs on the third one!
     
  10. SpeedTar Jun 9, 2016

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    Black dial ans gold is beauty!!!
    I am trying to benchmark a little, i truly hesitate with a Polerouter so...
    I read that the self winding is not very efficient on these watch, did you noticed that?
     
  11. SpeedTar Jun 9, 2016

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    I saw it, but i am more in classic round shape for now (taste evolve quickly, i recently accepted the idea that a 18k gold watch is wearable!! )
    Yours is a nice watch BTW
     
  12. ulackfocus Jun 9, 2016

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    ::love:: I sold that version to a member here. In less than a 3 months I hunted down another because it fit me so well. Now, I've made flips I regretted and eventually bought the same model of (i.e. Centenary 2500), but never in under a year. C-cases are C-licious! ::psy:: :)
     
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  13. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 9, 2016

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    The UC Chronometers did not come in a "standard" round case, AFAIK.

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    It's worth the extra premium. You only go 'round once.
    gatorcpa
     
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  14. ulackfocus Jun 9, 2016

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    *One caveat - you could get an Ultra-Chron Chronometer Flagship in a standard round case with regular lugs.
     
  15. voere pawn brokers are all about $$$ Jun 10, 2016

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    Nice Ultra Chrons I have a few 431's this one is my favorite
     
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  16. SpeedTar Jun 10, 2016

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    What about this one : :)
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  17. SpeedTar Jun 10, 2016

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    Well may be in few years i will 100% approve that !! ::book::;)
     
  18. ConElPueblo Jun 10, 2016

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    It's not chronometer certified like the ones Gator posted. I'd say it makes a difference in want-ability :)
     
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  19. SpeedTar Jun 10, 2016

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    Absolutely right!!! So can't get a round case and chronometer except create a franken?! ::facepalm1::
     
  20. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 10, 2016

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    D -

    You got a picture of that beastie? Or do you mean a Flagship Chronometer with a high beat cal. 431 or 6651? Edit - I found a picture:

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    gatorcpa