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·Sotherby's, Christies', Phillips, Watches of Knightbridge; they won't accept watches unless famous or in AA condition
Longines 13.33z monopusher
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·They didn't use the word rare here.
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·I bought this watch. I made them take it back. Was not perfect by a mile. Did not have matching numbers. Cuvette was wrong. Hands wrong. I didn't have all the pictures when I bid. Dial was mint, case excellent, mechanical perfect. But I said not AA.
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I started collecting enamel dial Longines not long ago. I gravitated towards 13.33 for the variety and history. I currently have (5) 13.33 and starting from the left.
The first one on the left was actually the first one I bought from a good watch friend, it's a wire lug, silver case, with a radium enamel dial.
The next one I got at an auction, a fixed lug, silver case, kilometrique dial multi-colored (including green) enamel dial.
The middle one I bought from another Longines collector, a fixed lug, steel case, with a beautiful simple white with black print dial.
The fourth one is a very early one invoiced to Baume & Co. The roman numeral 12 along with the red 12 is indicative of the first series on the 13.33. The cases were not stamped "Longines but "AB" (Arthur Baume) for the English market. It's a wire lug, silver case
The last one I also bought from a Longines collector, a fixed lug, 18k case with the Kilometrique enamel dial. It is different from the other 4 as it it's also a flyback. Amazing to think that Longines produced an instantaneous second chronograph with a flyback function in 1935.
I wear all my 13.33 along with other enamel dial Longines quite regularly. I am of the belief that they were built in some cases to be in the trenches and was very much a tool watch. I am very careful when wearing them but that can be said for all my watches.
I also believe most hairlines, cracks and, chips were caused when serviced and the screws holding the feet were not loosened enough. I cannot prove that but just my theory.
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·I just reread and saw the two buttons. You have a flyback!!! In 5 colors
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Larry S
··Color Commentator for the Hyperbole.Great to see a thread on these.
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·Yes, one that truly cherish.
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·Thank you for sharing. Incredible
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·I just reread and saw the two buttons. You have a flyback!!! In 5 colors
The steel and flyback are definitely special to me but so is the 1st series one in the middle. Almost impossible to find, most have been in collections for years.
When I purchased the steel one it was in a collection for 5 years. He got it at an auction where it was advertised to have come from the original family. Wouldn't be shocked if the auctioneer may have embellished the story.
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·You have an exception collection of 13.33z, this is without any debate.
In comparison, I have a mediocre chronograph 😀
I will warn others to hold onto their cushions since JohnL is out on the hunt.
In comparison, I have a mediocre chronograph 😀
I will warn others to hold onto their cushions since JohnL is out on the hunt.
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·So you need these two to reach god level.
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·Are the five colour dials really so difficult (and therefore expensive) to make ? They were fairly commonly used on pocket chronographs such as those with the valjoux 5.
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·Yes, they were higher rates of infant mortality.
Are pocket watch dials worth anything... market demand not there.
Are pocket watch dials worth anything... market demand not there.
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·Yes, they were higher rates of infant mortality.
Are pocket watch dials worth anything... market demand not there.
As this Multi-colour design was so prolific on pocket chronos I don’t imagine they were excessively difficult to produce.
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·Room temperature changes cracking dials is absolute non-sense. Kiln temperatures are hundreds of degrees of temperature changes. Cooling too fast or heating too fast, all the dials would be destroyed or the print would melt or the dial would take on a glossy appearance. Tension builds up on these dials as the process is repeated over and over again. Each time the color is added, there is a chance to crack the dials.
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·Room temperature changes cracking dials is absolute non-sense. Kiln temperatures are hundreds of degrees of temperature changes. Cooling too fast or heating too fast, all the dials would be destroyed or the print would melt or the dial would take on a glossy appearance.
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·No that’s my point they’re close to worthless, so it’s the market that creates the high prices for the multi colour dialled Longines chronos. This is more likely due to rarity and attractiveness rather than initial difficulty of manufacturer.
As this Multi-colour design was so prolific on pocket chronos I don’t imagine they were excessively difficult to produce.
I agree it's more likely the supply and demand that creates the prices for watches. One could argue that because of the difficulty to make the dial there would be less thus fueling the demand.
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