Hello guys, I have been offered this watch here, I don't know the reference inside nor what movement it has. Can anybody identify it? I am struggling between 145.012 and 145.022 Transitional. Any more hints that can be seen from these photos?

 

It has the step dial, long hour indicies and AML of a 145.022-68, but it's missing it's DO90 bezel.

 

Or a 321 145.012-67 or a 105.012-65 or 66 with wrong pushers. Best to get a look inside.

 

Not bad looking, other than the bezel and, is that rust on the running seconds hand?

How much is the asking?

Definitely get a look inside. Caseback ref and movement number.

 

I don't believe there's a way to distinguish a 145.022-68 from a 145.012-67/68, or as Gemini says, a late 105.012-66 with incorrect later pushers. Pre -66 will have double step case back and narrow T dial.

I'd insist on a look inside as there is the potential for water damage, given the running seconds hand condition.

 

If the price is low enough, it could be an interesting restoration project. The dial looks to be in good shape.

The incorrect bezel is a big downside for me though, whether it has a 321 or 861 movement. Very expensive to source the correct DO90 bezel these days.

 

Looks like a 1039 strap with 516 ends, that adds value. Doesn't help with the identification though.

Like the guys say, you really need to see inside.

 

It would be nice to find an 145.022 with the incorrect DON and then you could make two watches.....

 

Listen to it : 18.000 bph for the 321 vs. 21600 bph.