Lecoultre Vintage, is Box and paper legit!

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I saw this watch and believe it is legit except the crown, I have no idea about the box and paper, what do you think

 
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Box and papers are from a 1950’s LeCoultre. So it is possible that package is all original. The instruction book is likely generic to all manual wind LeCoultre watches.

The hang tags should have more information about the watch on the reverse, possibly a serial number.

However, these are very common in the secondary market. I have bought a lot of these over the years to go with my LeCoultre watches.

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Thank you so much, not able to verify serial number, any Idea how much would be fair price for it?

 
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may be related to mystery dial version not this model, tbh not sure
 
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Box and papers are from a 1950’s LeCoultre. So it is possible that package is all original. The instruction book is likely generic to all manual wind LeCoultre watches.

The hang tags should have more information about the watch on the reverse, possibly a serial number.

However, these are very common in the secondary market. I have bought a lot of these over the years to go with my LeCoultre watches.

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Any Idea how much this go for, and whether it worth it or wait for something special
 
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It seems the OF community is more interested in searching for the watch 😁
 
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I can see it now sold for $488, in my opinion not bad, I just want to understand the papers point for LeCoultre, does it really add value or not that much, I though box and papers are rare for them. would appreciate such clarification, thank you
 
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Actually, I was just watching the internet today and got two watches that catches my eyes this one but I already disciplined my self and not over buy, and the one below, I believe it is for the watch maker who know how do fix it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/388446299168

Please any clarification regarding my inquiry so I can learn about this topic in the future
 
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10k gf, bent lug and incorrect crown I’m surprised it made that much.
 
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10k gf, bent lug and incorrect crown I’m surprised it made that much.
Thanks for your comment. I noticed the crown, but tbh the bent lug did not come to my mind 😁. Do box and papers bring value to JLC? I do not have experience like yours, and I believed the price would go up because of this, however it appears that box and papers can be paid separately. Glad I only wanted to learn about this, you added a lot, thank you
 
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Do box and papers bring value to JLC?
Minimal value if any. The papers are generally not personalized to the watch and many different types of boxes exist, so it is almost impossible to tell if a box is original or not.

Someone paid $500 for a JLC movement (likely a cal. 480), a dial and a case repair project.
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Minimal value if any. The papers are generally not personalized to the watch and many different types of boxes exist, so it is almost impossible to tell if a box is original or not.

Someone paid $500 for a JLC movement (likely a cal. 480), a dial and a case repair project.
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Ooh, I see now how it works, sorry that happened for someone, thanks for your clarification on this.
 
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Because the watch had some serious problems and was not the most desirable model, I don't think that papers add so much value. A collector wouldn't want that watch. For a top-notch collectible example of a desirable model, I think that original guaranty papers with the serial number can be pretty valuable. Generic accessories like boxes aren't so important.
 
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I think that original guaranty papers with the serial number can be pretty valuable.
American LeCoultre watches usually had generic paperwork without serial numbers.
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This is very interesting. I just watched such a video, it seems it started due to US tariffs at that time to protect US market. Watch companies produced cases locally in the US to reduce costs. I really wonder if history can repeat itself. If Trump's tariffs continue, will some companies take the same route and create new watch trends, designs and whole market segments at a somewhat more affordable level than the original?

 
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I also found that while it's true that some older or less specific American LeCoultre watches might have had generic paperwork without serial numbers, this wasn't the standard practice for all LeCoultre watches, particularly those produced after a certain period. Serial numbers are generally associated with luxury watch brands, and they are used to identify a specific watch model and year of production.
 
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This is very interesting. I just watched such a video, it seems it started due to US tariffs at that time to protect US market. Watch companies produced cases locally in the US to reduce costs. I really wonder if history can repeat itself. If Trump's tariffs continue, will some companies take the same route and create new watch trends, designs and whole market segments at a somewhat more affordable level than the original?

I think you may have a vital piece missing from your Trump tariff premise.

Previously watches were being produced in similar economies that had similar costs - and so the only difference was the applied import tariffs on certain goods.

Today, consumer products are being produced in economies with significantly cheaper costs and imported into the US.
To produce them in the US would increase the cost to the consumer dramatically not make them less expensive.
 
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I think you may have a vital piece missing from your Trump tariff premise.

Previously watches were being produced in similar economies that had similar costs - and so the only difference was the applied import tariffs on certain goods.

Today, consumer products are being produced in economies with significantly cheaper costs and imported into the US.
To produce them in the US would increase the cost to the consumer dramatically not make them less expensive.
This is a well-respected and strong point. Since major US manufacturers like Elgin National Watch Company are no longer in business, I thought we may see something akin to Longines Wittnauer. I think Hamilton, Weiss, and Timex for the lower end are the only ones left to scale in the US.