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LeCoultre chrono. Legit or not?

  1. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Nov 1, 2023

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    Think it is legit but do not know much about these so my question: is it indeed legit https://www.ebay.com/itm/276089640856Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

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  2. Xtof Nov 1, 2023

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    :confused: I don't believe in it: no underline below Lecoultre, no import code on the movement. Few pieces (like the chrono bridge) might be legit, but otherwise, I clearly doubt.
     
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  3. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Nov 1, 2023

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    These watches use generic, non-LeCoultre made movements, so they are very easy to fake.

    I would not buy one of these without appropriate provenance.
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  4. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 1, 2023

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    I know very little about LeCoultre, but I recognize elements of the dial design from Longines 13ZN dials (see example below). In my view, the LeCoultre dial is close enough to suggest inspiration, but different enough to suggest that it is likely not original. Key points of comparison are the tachymeter scale and seconds/minutes scale. Additionally, the gold printing appears to be on top of the black surface, rather than galvanically applied. This is another difference with the 13ZN dial below, and one that adds to my suspicion.

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  5. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 2, 2023

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  6. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Nov 3, 2023

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    That case was faked in the 1990's in Poland and various unsigned movements were used. Most had no movement screws for the case and used that pronged spring loaded ring, which never really fitted. As far as I remember the dials came from a German Dial repainter, Bethge. Everything looks too good to be vintage and it isnt....
     
  7. Mark020 not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer Nov 3, 2023

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    So: too good to be true. Very interesting. Much appreciated!
     
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  8. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Nov 3, 2023

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    Thank you for sharing this information.
     
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