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  1. NT931

    NT931 Jun 19, 2013

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    Hi folks,

    There's a Connie with a 'hidden crown' on sale on ebay. The hidden crown looks pretty cool. But I was just wondering:

    1. The seller says that it is a large 38mm (excl crown), which is odd as googling other 168.004's say they're 35-36mm in size. Is there a 38mm 168.004 in existence?
    2. Are the hands correct? (the minute hand looks rather long?)
    3. Does the dial look refinished?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Robert-Jan

    Robert-Jan Editor of Fratellowatches.com Jun 19, 2013

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    Hi,

    I have a similar model (the 168.004 on the right, left model is a 168.010) and it is 35mm, not 38mm.

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    I don't seen any particular strange things with regards to the hands and dial, but I am not the Constellation connoisseur. Please check with Desmond from the Constellation blog, he is probably able to help you out there.
     
  3. cicindela

    cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jun 19, 2013

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    At 35mm, the 168.004 and 168.0010 are larger than the 168.005 dog legs (34mm). An additional difference exists between the .004 and .0010 in that the 0010 has 19mm between the lugs spacing, VS. 18 on the .004, thus giving the watch a larger appearance on the wrist.
     
  4. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jun 19, 2013

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    Not sure about the dial, I believe it may have been refinished or at the very least the lume on the figures has been replaced, it should match the aged lume on the hands, which are the correct length for this dome dial.

    Here is a comparison shot of the 168.005 at 34.1-mm and the 168.004 at 35.5-mm.

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  5. Alpenschneerot

    Alpenschneerot Jun 19, 2013

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    Here is mine,
    Ref. 168.004/14,De Luxe version,18 Karat yellow gold, solid gold dial:) IMG_0989[1].JPG
     
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  6. gatorcpa

    gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jun 19, 2013

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    I think the seller is probably putting a tape measure over the slighly domed crystal to take this measurement. It would probably add 2mm to the total. I think that the case of the Ref. 168.004 is roughly the same diameter as the 168.005 including the crown. So 36mm should be more-or-less correct.

    Taking a measurement of the Ref. 168.004 "including the crown" is somewhat redundant, since a proper measurement would mean removing the crystal and going from bezel edge to bezel edge from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock. For this watch, the crown would be included by definition since it should not protrude from the bezel at all.

    That's enough of that,
    gatorcpa

    ::deadhorse::
     
  7. webvan

    webvan Jun 19, 2013

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    36mm is going to be pretty wearable in any...case ;-)
     
  8. NT931

    NT931 Jun 19, 2013

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    Thanks everyone for their opinions! Um, case ... closed? ;-)
     
  9. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Jun 19, 2013

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    How about this 37mm

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  10. Privateday7

    Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jun 19, 2013

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    It's the special Asian version produced in mid 70's, isn't it?
     
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  11. sohail

    sohail Jun 19, 2013

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    Hi what is the ref no. For this 37mm one.
     
  12. JimInOz

    JimInOz "Helpful Hints from Heloise" of bracelet cleaning. Jun 20, 2013

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    "CASE:Almost as perfect. Not a scratch or nick to be found on the upper case, and even the lower case, with the exception of a few perfunctory marks from a case knife,"

    ::confused2::

    Who uses a case knife on a screwback?

    And here's a 168.004

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  13. Privateday7

    Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jun 20, 2013

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  14. hoipolloi

    hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Jun 20, 2013

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    Yes, It's a 168.001

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    and some 168004's

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  15. NT931

    NT931 Jun 21, 2013

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    Oh the auction ended early on the watch I originally posted about. Did anyone here buy it?
     
  16. Privateday7

    Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Jun 21, 2013

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    Not me..........for sometimes........
     
  17. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Jun 21, 2013

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    Wasn't me. Unless a pink gold hooded lug caliber 504 comes up in mint condition I won't be doing much Constellation buying on eBay.
     
  18. Mothra

    Mothra Jun 21, 2013

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    I'd never bid on something someone else had had brought up and was thinking about buying without them stepping down first... But i guess this site attracts a lot of traffic now....
     
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  19. Stewart H

    Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Jun 21, 2013

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    I'm with you on that, but outing a watch on a public forum does indeed draw other people's attention to that watch. I have sent a message to some of the Mods on a couple of pieces where I was serious and sought the opinion of people who know more that I do - one of which I bought and one that went beyond the collective valuation ideals.

    If I were on the outside, looking in, I would pay attention to the e-Bay recommended thread and de-risk my internet buying (unless someone is going Ashley on an auction)
     
  20. Mothra

    Mothra Jun 21, 2013

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    One day I'm going to go Ashley just so i can say i did....