Don't you remember subtraction? The difference between 853 and 852 is 1.
Haha yea i know in mathematics. But in the iwc:s caliber world its something else
Just caught up to this thread to add mine. Would love to have a RG ribbon like Dennis, but I'm happy with this.
Hi Steve and Dennis,
What would be the ball park price for a 62-64 IWC cal 89, in 18K Gold? The condition is fair, the strap is not original but otherwise decent.
I have only very poor images, thanks to my Blackberry camera quality.
Very poor photos as you know. Lugs look bent. Dial looks refinished but can't be sure from image, could just be old style. Movement is dark and dingy so I can't tell. You want this one cheap if you buy.
The seller wants USD 1500 maybe can go down to USD 1250. I don't think that's cheap.
The lugs definitely are bent inwards. Don't know if that dial has been cleaned or refinished a while back, but it's not worth $1500. $1250 isn't a bad price for an 18ct model. There are quite a few dial refinishers who do a nice job with IWC's fonts.
I think the dial logo and the dots look right. I also see the "Swiss" at the bottom. It's barely there, but that's how it should be.
Lugs are a mess, but this can be fixed by a good jeweler. I also noticed that there is a US import mark on the movement of "CYN". Are you sure that it's 18K gold? It may be 14K if it is made for the US market.
Given that it probably needs a service also, even $1,250 is probably on the high side for this particular example. All this work is going to cost money that has to come from the price if this deal is going to make any financial sense at all.
Yes there is 0.750 sign in the caseback, which also has 1684284 number.
I notice in the movement there is CYN and adjusted for three positions writing that I don't see in other examples above, but otherwise identical.
I pass the opportunity just because I haven't had a trusted jeweler and watchmaker in Jakarta.
Here is a discussion thread regarding another watch with the same import code and case number very close to the one you are considering:
On the adjustments, this is another anomoly that I noticed when researching IWC movements. Some movements were marked "adjusted", most were not. There is no apparent way to tell the difference without opening up a particular example. Differences could be by model reference, but this isn't mentioned even in IWC's own catalogs from the period. IWC generally did not submit adjusted movements to the COSC for independent testing back then that would enable them to use the word "Chronometer" on the dials.
My understanding is that IWC's own internal testing was tougher than COSC standards,
BTW, the IWC Cal. 89 movement powered the celebrated RAF Mark 11 air chronometre, 1948+; another version of the Mark 11 chronometre was made by Jaeger LeCoultre, powered by the lovely cal 488. Both were (are) extraordinarily fine military watches, marked with the broad arrow. The IWC cal. 89 went on to a long and successful civilian career. A few hundred pounds? Not a problem!
Thank you for your enlightment. I am still novice at Omega, but almost zero knowledge on vintage IWC.
I will try to be patient and learn more before strike a deal.
Here's one that was discussed in the Recommended Ebay watches thread a while ago. Now it's mine
joining a shark fin Dennis advised me on....
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