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  1. seamonster Respectable Member Dec 31, 2012

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  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 31, 2012

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    Nice watch? yes. O v e r the top yes . Cleanest? , no not at all. The case appears refinished to me. Let's see watch Mike has to say.
     
  3. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 31, 2012

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    The dial's far from immaculate, lume looks like its flaking.
     
  4. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Dec 31, 2012

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    I would say it is a very clean speedmaster - clean enough that it should be valued at a premium above the typical 105.003 speedmaster. i think the case is original and has not been polished but clearly has some wear. The dial has some age but is still quite nice. Papers with the watch is a nice addition - hard to find papers for these cal. 321 speedmasters. Seller is dreaming about the price - I would say $5000-6000 for this one in terms of value.
     
  5. richardew Jan 1, 2013

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    It's a nice watch and it has the 7912 bracelet. $12,000 though is way high. I can't recall seeing a 105.003 selling over $6000.
     
  6. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    Christies Sale 1345 Lot 369 Head only 105.003 sold for $5,929
    Christies Sale 1348 Lot 22 Head only 105.003 sold for $7,245
    Of course there's the AQ Omegamania 105.003 which went for 11,210 CHF
    And a chocolate dial 105.003 head only sold for 9,600 CHF on 4/10/09
    And on 11/11/12 a 105.003 with 7912 bracelet sold for just about $6000
     
  7. richardew Jan 1, 2013

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    The pre 2010 prices were inflated. The market is softer now. The recent ebay sales were for $3488, $4995, and $3300. The 11/11 sale was for 5000 CHF ($5469.07 today).
     
  8. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    What position do you guys take on chocolate dial Speedmasters?
     
  9. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    Very true, though the $3488 and $3300 had some significant damage that would stop me from buying.
     
  10. richardew Jan 1, 2013

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    I prefer mine with coffee.
    12.30.12 _30speedys n coffee.jpg

    I would not pay a huge premium for one. I do however like the way lume and the dial drift towards tan/dark brown as the watch ages. I have many brown straps that I use. The speedys on black straps have a more serious tone to them.
     
  11. kyle L Grasshopper Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    I love the one all the way to the right in the top row, it looks great on that strap! I have about 4 of those straps, they're always comfy. :thumbsup:
     
  12. richardew Jan 1, 2013

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    I liked the one for $3300. The bezel was beat but of all the vintage parts one would need to complete the piece, I think that getting an appropriate bezel for that watch is relatively easy. We agree that nobody is likely to pay $12,000 for one.
     
  13. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    Richard and Mike confirm my beliefs that one can not have too many Speedys. I only have 2, 321-1861 Speedys :( and two other "nons" a moon phase 7750 and an X-33
     
  14. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    IMO sell the ETA 7751 moonphase and buy a Cal 1866 moonphase
     
  15. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    Yeah, but you have an upside down view of the Moon so what do you know:D

    And when I get some more Speedys they will be "Pre Moon"
     
  16. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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    The first generation Cal 866 moonphase would be a compromise: http://chronomaddox.com/speedmaster_moonphase.html

    ;)
     
  17. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 1, 2013

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