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Is this Longines a redial?

  1. BlueOtter Feb 4, 2019

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    Hi everyone!

    Long time lurker on this forum but I am active on other forums such as WUS and on Instagram.
    I have a Longines watch with a non-serif font dial and I can’t seem to figure out if it is a redial or not. The watch houses a 19AS automatic movement so I would believe it was created in the early 50s or late 40s?

    I initially thought that it was an original variant of the non-serif font dial because the letters looked pretty consistent with other original variants of the non-serif font watches and the letters look rather crisp. Also, the aging of the lume, and the watch in general is rather consistent. But then again, I am not too sure myself so I would like to seek some help from the community over here.
    Thank you very much and any input would be appreciated!!

    Because the crystal is a little scratched up, I took a picture of the words with a macro lens in order to avoid any visual distortions.
     
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  2. cchen Feb 4, 2019

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    Its a redial. See original one:
     
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  3. BlueOtter Feb 4, 2019

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    Yup I have seen that one before. I believe that the model was marketed as the Longines Eagle or something.
    I was just thinking that there might potentially have been a chance that they used a non-serif dial.
    So can we conclusively say that it is a redial? And an older one at that?
    I cannot imagine this being a modern redial because of the aged lume.
     
  4. bubba48 Feb 4, 2019

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  5. cchen Feb 4, 2019

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  6. Dan S Feb 4, 2019

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    I don't like the stubby printed markers outside of the applied hour markers.
     
  7. Radiumpassion Feb 4, 2019

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    This is a tough one. Taking the whole dial in condideration I`m leaning towards original. Nice radium patina match on dial and hands too.
     
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  8. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Feb 6, 2019

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    According to Patrick Linder's book, caliber 19AS was introduced in 1952.
    Sans-serif signatures can be found as early as 1940 (e.g. ref. 4630), and as late as the 1950's (see example below).

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    As for the dial in question, I am curious about a few things. Firstly, should "Automatic" be printed somewhere? Secondly, the distance between the numerals and their respective squares looks quite a bit larger than on the example below. I also note that there are printed markings at 1, 2, 4, 5 etc. that come very close to the applied markings. Again, this differs from the example below, which has no such markings. I wonder if "Swiss" is printed at 6 o'clock? And if the movement has an "LXW" import mark on the balance cock?

    Lognines Breguet numerals.JPG
     
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  9. Dan S Feb 6, 2019

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    Yes, this is what I mentioned in my comment above. None of the examples I found have printed markers and applied markers in the same place.
     
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