Is this a solid rose gold and SS case ?

bgrisso

Thanks for all the replys everyone, it is an interesting case and I think worth exploring a bit further.....

It is 32mm, although the top to bottom lug size of 40mm means it obviously wears a bit bigger.

It is definitely rose gold, very strongly so, I have lots of other gold references in the house so it's easy to spot.

I gave it to my special lady friend a few years back, and so it sits in her watch case not mine, so I don't see it much. She has been refocusing her collection and asked if I thought she should keep or sell this one, and so I was researching it. I had always presumed it was gold plated, without ever thinking about it, but looking at it closely, it is definitely not plated.

It's also definitely not gold cap. I know how it appears in the rear photo, and I know how that can be misleading, but I have it here in my hand, the gold color completely covers the bottom surface of the lug without any SS visible, and my understanding with gold cap is the base metal would be visible on the underside of the lugs?

So as far as I can tell, it's either gold filled, or solid gold, unless someone has another option?

I would tend to presume that if it were solid gold there would be hallmarks on the lugs, and without such hallmarks, it is probably be gold filled. Sounds like others would agree on this thinking.

I am seeing other examples online, aside from the one posted above, and people keeping saying either 14K or 18K rose gold in the listings. I assume if someone says 14K or 18K, that means solid gold. But perhaps I am misunderstanding this, can you say 14K or 18K for gold filled? Maybe those are just advertising weasel words. Anyhow here's one (no hallmarks I can see), the texture on the back of the lugs looks the same to me, its just much cleaner:

https://www.acollectedman.com/colle...ograph-22261-watch-cal-481?variant=1740210179

Another example is right here on OF, this one:

The owner started out saying it was gold cap (perhaps meant gold filled?), then said it was solid rose gold, I assume based on further investigation. @knafel1983 perhaps you can clarify. Are there any hallmarks and what leads you to say it is solid gold?

Lastly, is there any test to resolve if it is gold filled or solid gold? (short of a deep scratch or some other destructive test method).

bgrisso

So do we feel this above info can be applied to other case references ? Are we tipping towards a consensus on solid rose gold lugs with mixed metal cases ?

bgrisso

What do people think of a ladder bracelet on a ribbon lugs case ? (This watch belongs to my GF, not me)

bgrisso

Thanks for all the replys everyone, it is an interesting case and I think worth exploring a bit further.....

It is 32mm, although the top to bottom lug size of 40mm means it obviously wears a bit bigger.

It is definitely rose gold, very strongly so, I have lots of other gold references in the house so it's easy to spot.

I gave it to my special lady friend a few years back, and so it sits in her watch case not mine, so I don't see it much. She has been refocusing her collection and asked if I thought she should keep or sell this one, and so I was researching it. I had always presumed it was gold plated, without ever thinking about it, but looking at it closely, it is definitely not plated.

It's also definitely not gold cap. I know how it appears in the rear photo, and I know how that can be misleading, but I have it here in my hand, the gold color completely covers the bottom surface of the lug without any SS visible, and my understanding with gold cap is the base metal would be visible on the underside of the lugs?

So as far as I can tell, it's either gold filled, or solid gold, unless someone has another option?

I would tend to presume that if it were solid gold there would be hallmarks on the lugs, and without such hallmarks, it is probably be gold filled. Sounds like others would agree on this thinking.

I am seeing other examples online, aside from the one posted above, and people keeping saying either 14K or 18K rose gold in the listings. I assume if someone says 14K or 18K, that means solid gold. But perhaps I am misunderstanding this, can you say 14K or 18K for gold filled? Maybe those are just advertising weasel words. Anyhow here's one (no hallmarks I can see), the texture on the back of the lugs looks the same to me, its just much cleaner:

https://www.acollectedman.com/colle...ograph-22261-watch-cal-481?variant=1740210179

Another example is right here on OF, this one:

The owner started out saying it was gold cap (perhaps meant gold filled?), then said it was solid rose gold, I assume based on further investigation. @knafel1983 perhaps you can clarify. Are there any hallmarks and what leads you to say it is solid gold?

Lastly, is there any test to resolve if it is gold filled or solid gold? (short of a deep scratch or some other destructive test method).

bgrisso

Thanks for all the replys everyone, it is an interesting case and I think worth exploring a bit further.....

It is 32mm, although the top to bottom lug size of 40mm means it obviously wears a bit bigger.

It is definitely rose gold, very strongly so, I have lots of other gold references in the house so it's easy to spot.

I gave it to my special lady friend a few years back, and so it sits in her watch case not mine, so I don't see it much. She has been refocusing her collection and asked if I thought she should keep or sell this one, and so I was researching it. I had always presumed it was gold plated, without ever thinking about it, but looking at it closely, it is definitely not plated.

It's also definitely not gold cap. I know how it appears in the rear photo, and I know how that can be misleading, but I have it here in my hand, the gold color completely covers the bottom surface of the lug without any SS visible, and my understanding with gold cap is the base metal would be visible on the underside of the lugs?

So as far as I can tell, it's either gold filled, or solid gold, unless someone has another option?

I would tend to presume that if it were solid gold there would be hallmarks on the lugs, and without such hallmarks, it is probably be gold filled. Sounds like others would agree on this thinking.

I am seeing other examples online, aside from the one posted above, and people keeping saying either 14K or 18K rose gold in the listings. I assume if someone says 14K or 18K, that means solid gold. But perhaps I am misunderstanding this, can you say 14K or 18K for gold filled? Maybe those are just advertising weasel words. Anyhow here's one (no hallmarks I can see), the texture on the back of the lugs looks the same to me, its just much cleaner:

https://www.acollectedman.com/colle...ograph-22261-watch-cal-481?variant=1740210179

Another example is right here on OF, this one:

The owner started out saying it was gold cap (perhaps meant gold filled?), then said it was solid rose gold, I assume based on further investigation. @knafel1983 perhaps you can clarify. Are there any hallmarks and what leads you to say it is solid gold?

Lastly, is there any test to resolve if it is gold filled or solid gold? (short of a deep scratch or some other destructive test method).