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Is it a genuine electric blue SMP?

  1. vitriol Oct 7, 2017

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    Your thoughts please.
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    The tip of the seconds hand is white, should be red, but ok - colour could have faded away.
    My biggest concern is about the cards.
    I always used to have red plastic cards. On the photo, a chronometer certificate is made of a creamy paper (?) and a warranty card looks like someone removed the red layer (?)
    Is it the legit set of cards for the older Omegas?

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  2. redpcar Oct 7, 2017

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    Curious feedbacks. History as a seller is all over a year ago and no watches and no other items currently for sale. I would use caution.
     
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  3. Buck2466 Oct 7, 2017

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    That is the older warranty card before Omega changed to red ones. If you look close the card is dated 2002. The watch is 15 years old. This is the titanium version on a Bond bracelet. Personally, I like the look of the Professional bracelet better. If your patient, these pop up all the time and you can find one in better condition and price.
     
  4. vitriol Oct 8, 2017

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    Yes, titanium 2231.80 comes with the Bond bracelet, while steel 2255.80 has the Professional bracelet.

    Do you know when was a transition, when Omega has moved from the older cards to modern cards?
     
  5. padders Oooo subtitles! Oct 8, 2017

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    AFAIK, both steel and titanium EB SMPs can come on both styles of bracelet. In steels, the 2255 is the speedy type and the 2055 is the bond type, don't have the numbers for the titanium ones. It is my understanding that the bond type remained popular in the US whereas in Europe the speedy type was increasingly more common.

    I would guess at a change over to the the red card of around 2000-2001 based on the few I have seen in that year range. Yours may have sat in store for a while before sale (or the date was faked), the titanium were ~40% more expensive than the steels when new so it would have been a tougher slower sell. I would hazard a guess your watch was actually made in 1997-98 as I have a SMP-GMT with a 60.32 serial with cards (same design as yours) dated 1998. If so, those cards and papers look genuine.
     
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  6. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Oct 8, 2017

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    Serial number: 60316334
    Article ref: 22318000

    The bracelet has nothing to do with the presence of tritium - there were 2 different models, one the "USA" model with the Bond bracelet is the 22318000, and the other was the 22328000 with the Speedmaster style bracelet. Same situation as the 22545000 and 20545000 - exact same watch head but different bracelets and different model references.

    Edit to add that the 22558000 and 20558000 are the SS versions of the electric blue dial and also come with the same 2 bracelet options.

    A watch made in 2002 would not have tritium, as that was discontinued in the late 90's - 1998 or so. I don't believe this model ever came with a tritium dial.

    Cheers, Al
     
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  7. padders Oooo subtitles! Oct 8, 2017

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    Al, I don't think anyone mentioned tritium, it was titanium that was being pondered.
     
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  8. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Oct 8, 2017

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    Too early - not enough coffee yet...:coffee:

    But the bracelet has no relation to it being titanium either...
     
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  9. padders Oooo subtitles! Oct 8, 2017

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    Take the M2 out for a blast, that'll wake you up. I did the same with my 997 yesterday. Great fun!
     
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  10. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Oct 8, 2017

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    If it dries out a bit I might later - but we are seeing the new Bladerunner later today, so I'll be awake for that...
     
  11. WatchVaultNYC Oct 8, 2017

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    cards are legit. See them all the time
     
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  12. Shailor Oct 8, 2017

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  13. padders Oooo subtitles! Oct 8, 2017

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  14. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Oct 8, 2017

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  15. wsfarrell Oct 8, 2017

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    Nice watch, nice price if it stays near $1,500.
     
  16. vitriol Oct 9, 2017

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    Thanks but I am chasing full-size automatics only. Ideally in EU as I feel like already have paid enough customs in this year.

    Cheers, are these cards really made of a paper, or it's just my impression?


    As the tritium has been mentioned;) can we deepen a luminosity used by the Omega?
    I mean, when was the transition from Luminova to SuperLuminova, 2000-something ?
     
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  17. padders Oooo subtitles! Oct 9, 2017

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    Card is plastic, chronometer cert is paper.

    Omega's lume transition was 1997 (see above) but there is no uncertainty with these. All sword hands SMPs use S-L dials, there are none with tritium. The earlier Bond dials can be found with tritium but it doesn't fade as nicely on those as on other pieces, the hands and dial plots often end up mismatched.
     
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