Inquiry About Mismatched Case and Movement Numbers in Vintage Omega Watches

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Hi fellow collectors and enthusiasts,


I’ve been researching vintage Omega watches lately, and a question has come up regarding serial numbers. From what I understand, Omega typically ensures that case numbers and movement numbers correspond correctly on their timepieces. However, I’ve stumbled upon some discussions mentioning potential mismatches in older models, particularly those from the Quartz Crisis era. I’m hoping to get some insights from the community here.


First, has anyone encountered vintage Omega watches where the case number does not match the movement number? Modern Omegas seem to maintain strict number matching, so I’m curious if earlier production pressures might have caused inconsistencies.Because I saw some examples on the market, the movement serial number does not match with the case number. For example: a vintage Omega Deville (model 168.1050 with calibre 1109) the case number is 601xxxxx and movement number is 496xxxxx.

Second, could such mismatches be linked to the Quartz Crisis? Might the pressures of Quartz Crisis have led to looser quality control, such as mixing parts from different batches or rushing assembly without proper number tracking?

If such mismatches did occur, how long did this phenomenon last? The Quartz Crisis is generally dated to the 1970s through the early 1980s, but Omega’s struggles persisted into the mid-1980s . Did the numbering inconsistencies align with this timeline, say roughly 1975-1985? I’ve also read that Omega shifted from in-house movements to ETA-based calibers after selling Lemania during the crisis, which might have disrupted production workflows . Could this transition have contributed to mismatched numbers?

Finally, for collectors: Do these mismatches affect authenticity assessments, or are they considered a known quirk of crisis-era production? I’ve seen warnings about untreated mismatches being red flags without documentation, but I’m wondering if exceptions exist for this specific period .

Any firsthand experiences, technical knowledge, or historical context would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for sharing your expertise.
 
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Your question makes little sense. Before around 1985, Omega didn't stamp the case with the movement number. Prior to around 1955 some cases, usually precious metal did have a separate case serial number on the inner caseback but those ran in a different sequence to the movement number. What numbers exactly are you referring to?

btw in watch circles, 'case number' is the reference for the model and usually stamped on the inner case back, not the individual watch number found on the movement. In your DeVille example above, 198.1050 is the case number. The 49.6m number you quote would be about right to be the movement serial for a late 80s movement. I have no idea where you got the 60.1m number which would be seen on a mid 90s auto movement and never on an 1109. To confuse matters Some 1980-90s Omega quartz watches have no number on the movement at all and just a printed number on the inner caseback.

Can you give some pictorial examples of that you mean since at present I am minded to think your question was written by an AI bot.

For the avoidance of doubt, if you find an Omega with a serial on the outside of the case and on the movement that don't match, it didn't leave the factory that way.
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Your question makes little sense. Before around 1985, Omega didn't stamp the case with the movement number. Prior to around 1955 some cases, usually precious metal did have a separate case serial number on the inner caseback but those ran in a different sequence to the movement number. What numbers exactly are you referring to?

btw in watch circles, 'case number' is the reference for the model and usually stamped on the inner case back, not the individual watch number found on the movement. In your DeVille example above, 198.1050 is the case number. The 49.6m number you quote would be about right to be the movement serial for a late 80s movement. I have no idea where you got the 60.1m number which would be seen on a mid 90s auto movement and never on an 1109. To confuse matters Some 1980-90s Omega quartz watches have no number on the movement at all and just a printed number on the inner caseback.

Can you give some pictorial examples of that you mean since at present I am minded to think your question was written by an AI bot.

For the avoidance of doubt, if you find an Omega with a serial on the outside of the case and on the movement that don't match, it didn't leave the factory that way.
 
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For example: a vintage Omega Deville (model 168.1050 with calibre 1109) the case number is 601xxxxx and movement number is 496xxxxx.
I'd be interested to see photograps (good clear ones) of this example.

I'm also confused by your reference to the numbers with xxxxx.

If it has a genuine number, and it's on the INTERNET, there's no need to obfuscate things.
 
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Sorry about the misunderstanding, I translate the question into English by the translator. I will use my own words in English. The case model number is 168.1050(reference number), and the serial number(individual number) on the back case is 601xxxxx, which is not match with the movement individual number 496xxxxx. I link the photo of this watch down below as the reference. And i also have another similar example, the movement model is 1120. I will also link the picture down below.

My questions are:
Is this circumstance normal? Do vintage Omega (not only DeVille ) have this mismatch individual number when they come out from the factory? If there exist this circumstance, which time period is this around?

Thank you for your reply. The second one:
 
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I'd be interested to see photograps (good clear ones) of this example.

I'm also confused by your reference to the numbers with xxxxx.

If it has a genuine number, and it's on the INTERNET, there's no need to obfuscate things.

I post the photo in the reply. You can check it up. They are my friends watches. I’m not familiar with the platform so forgive me on the reply format🥲
 
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Your question makes little sense. Before around 1985, Omega didn't stamp the case with the movement number. Prior to around 1955 some cases, usually precious metal did have a separate case serial number on the inner caseback but those ran in a different sequence to the movement number. What numbers exactly are you referring to?

btw in watch circles, 'case number' is the reference for the model and usually stamped on the inner case back, not the individual watch number found on the movement. In your DeVille example above, 198.1050 is the case number. The 49.6m number you quote would be about right to be the movement serial for a late 80s movement. I have no idea where you got the 60.1m number which would be seen on a mid 90s auto movement and never on an 1109. To confuse matters Some 1980-90s Omega quartz watches have no number on the movement at all and just a printed number on the inner caseback.

Can you give some pictorial examples of that you mean since at present I am minded to think your question was written by an AI bot.

For the avoidance of doubt, if you find an Omega with a serial on the outside of the case and on the movement that don't match, it didn't leave the factory that way.

I’m sorry my further comment didn’t seem to replied under yours comment. Would u please check up the replies in this post? Thank you.
 
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It may be because Omega was in a bit of a turmoil during the quartz crisis and that seemed to persist for a while.

The movement number are standard for Omega and date to about 1986 (49 mil) and the caliber 1120 falls into that area where I have no serial number data.

The cases were not made by Omega, but made under contract by Louis Lang SA of Porrentruy Switzerland. So the number on the caseback may be a LL serial or contract number.
 
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s this circumstance normal? Do vintage Omega (not only DeVille ) have this mismatch individual number when they come out from the factory? If there exist this circumstance, which time period is this around?
No, not normal at all. I would guess that at some point either case backs were swapped or movements were swapped.

There are 4 serial nmbers in question here. I can look up the model number with the complete serial number, with the exception of the early one starting with 496 - the Omega Extranet will not give results for serial numbers below 50 million.

But if you would like I can look up the other three serial numbers and tell you if they match the model...but I would need you to give me the full numbers.
 
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@JUIEN

I agree, it is interesting that you have found 2 of the same reference with a mismatch. I still firmly share the opinion expressed by Archer above that either the movement or caseback have been swapped here and these didn't start like this but it certainly is weird that you have found 2. Your question above seems to be, was it common that the movement numbers on case and movement didn't match. No it wasn't, not in any era. I suspect something else is going on here. It could just be a coincidence that you've found 2 messed about examples of the same model.

Take Archer up on his offer of help. He can see what 3 of the numbers actually started life as according to Omega's records which will shed a lot of light here. You can send the serial numbers to him direct via our mail facility if you don't want to show them publicly, but I don't see that you have much to lose by doing so anyhow.
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