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Inherited Grandfather's Omega "World's Precision Record"

  1. leeprice78 Aug 1, 2016

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    Hello,
    I am brand new to this forum. I have inherited my late father's Omega pocket watch and presentation case, which was passed onto him after his father died. I have no information on this piece. It is beautiful and I intend to keep it in family. I'm hoping those who know about these watches can shed some light on what it is exactly. 20160801_183605.jpg 20160801_183612.jpg 20160801_183557.jpg 20160801_183628.jpg
     
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  2. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 1, 2016

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    Based on the smaller flat crown and the blued steel "club" hands I think this could be classed as an "Omega Art Deco Lepine" from the early 1930s.

    To pin down exactly what it is you will need to get the caseback opened and use the numbers inside the case and on the movement.

    These will tell you when the case and movement were made and possibly the caliber of the watch, as well as any other indications like hallmarks or makers marks.

    If you are unable to do this, a competent watchmaker should be able to do it with ease.
     
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  3. François Pépin Aug 1, 2016

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    Very nice watch! Looks in excellent condition.

    We will need pictures of the movement and the inside of the back to give you more information. Could be a 35,5 or a 37,5 movement - depending on the size.
     
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  4. leeprice78 Aug 1, 2016

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    Thank you. Will take to jeweler to have back side removed and documented. Will be back to report on findings.
     
  5. leeprice78 Aug 1, 2016

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    I was successful in removing the caseback. I see:
    8977281 on movement
    9607701 on caseback.
    Also see scribed RDH440, RB111 20160801_220120_002.jpg 20160801_220052.jpg Screenshot_20160801-221538.png Screenshot_20160801-221600.png Screenshot_20160801-221615.png (?) and one other I can't out.
     
  6. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 2, 2016

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    The serial number on your movement dates your watch to the mid 1930s which corresponds with your case serial number also at the early to mid 1930s.

    The case was manufactured for Omega by Fabrique de Boites Bielna SA. (the K.B. mark).

    The scratchy marks are from when the watch was serviced, many watchmakers marked watches in this way at that time.

    I'm not an expert on the movement so I'll have to do a bit of research.
     
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  7. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 2, 2016

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    I'll agree with François at the moment. I'd like to know the diameter of the movement in millimetres to be sure.
     
  8. VanDamme NOT "The Muscles from Brussels" Aug 2, 2016

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    When looking at serials for Omega movements, were they all in sequence?
    For example, no pocket watch will have the same serial as a wristwatch.
     
  9. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 2, 2016

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    To my knowledge, no Omega serials are duplicated.

    Unless of course, you are buying a "replica" with the external serial number.
     
  10. François Pépin Aug 2, 2016

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    Actually, it is a 35,5 shape. We need the size of the movement to know which one (35,5, 37,5, 37,6, 40,6). In those movement, the caliber would normaly be written under the balance, but I cannot read anything in your pictures.

    Excellent condition!
     
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  11. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 2, 2016

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    @leeprice78 , if you look under the balance there are some numbers there that may tell us all about the movement.
    Use macro setting on your phone or camera and shoot this area. You may have to do a couple if the balance wheel is spinning.

    Screen Shot 2016-08-02 at 7.33.21 PM.png
     
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  12. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Aug 2, 2016

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    It is probably a reference CK 1065. Here is a 1065 in a 1939 catalog :
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    It could also be a CK 1055 (I am not sure of the difference, it seems that on the 1055 the bezel is flat and thinner, wich would make it different from your watch...). Here is a 1055 in a 1940 catalog :
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    It should have a 37.5 Inside, extra flat caliber. The crown is probably a replacement since this model had a globe crown. The dial and hands look correct to me (btw the dial is in a exceptionnaly well preserved condition). They may differ from the pictures from the catalogs but Omega used to have different combinations so it doesn't mean that they are not original.
     
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  13. leeprice78 Aug 2, 2016

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    How do I learn what metal the watch is made of? I appreciate the help. I will add this my house insurance as its own line item.
     
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  14. dx009 Aug 2, 2016

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    If it was solid gold it should have had a stamp, often on the caseback or on the case itself (usually on wristwatches) that said whether it's 9 karat or whichever.

    This one might be gold plated as Tire-comedon suggests... Though given its age who knows... 40 microns isn't that much gold but it looks to have been taken care of.
     
  15. leeprice78 Aug 2, 2016

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    20160802_121357.jpg I am able to see 37.5L-5P
     
  16. leeprice78 Aug 2, 2016

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    Sorry. 37,5L-15P
     
  17. François Pépin Aug 2, 2016

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    Well, 37,5 it is!
     
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  18. leeprice78 Aug 2, 2016

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    You guys are a great. Thank you everybody. Thank you for your contributions and your help.
     
  19. François Pépin Aug 2, 2016

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    Concerning the case, if it were like a French case, a maker mark in a square, or what you have (square with one round side), indicates a gold plated case. Solid gold would have a maker mark in a diamond.

    However, there are solid gold Suiss hallmarks in frames like the OP´s watch. But a solid gold case would likely have some clear hallmark.
     
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  20. leeprice78 Aug 2, 2016

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    Thank you, François.