India successfully lands rover on Darkside of the moon

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I'm not defending Mark020's "toilets" post, but I agree with the sentiment of his follow up post explaining his concern. Lack of proper sanitary facilities in any country, let alone one with a very large population, is a serious public health and environmental problem that needs to be addressed and, objectively, is more important than space exploration. What is regrettable is that Mark020 didn't express his concern a little more artfully. But let's keep this civil and not get crazy. Most importantly, I congratulate India on its achievement.
 
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I'm not defending Mark020's "toilets" post, but I agree with the sentiment of his follow up post explaining his concern. Lack of proper sanitary facilities in any country, let alone one with a very large population, is a serious public health and environmental problem that needs to be addressed and, objectively, is more important than space exploration. What is regrettable is that Mark020 didn't express his concern a little more artfully. But let's keep this civil and not get crazy. Most importantly, I congratulate India on its achievement.

Legitimate concern for sure, but his approach feels pretty abrasive and in poor form.
 
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Legitimate concern for sure, but his approach feels pretty abrasive and in poor form.
No argument on that point from me.
 
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It's frustrating because space exploration is an endeavor shared by all of us and benefits everyone. It's not our place to tell any country participation is conditional or that they shouldn't try. The value and percentage of India's GDP going to space programs is tiny to begin with. They're doing more with less.
 
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When I started this thread, I was very excited about the possibility of getting confirmation about water and ice existing on the South Pole and what it meant for future human settlement and missions. Did not expect this thread to take this drastic a turn 😀.

Anyways, no point in letting one persons comment turn this entire thread into a different direction.
 
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Good to hear that this lander includes a rover that will soon go exploring. Also amazing that deep craters and basins exist near the poles that haven't seen sunlight in billions of years!
 
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It's about time we humans made some progress in this area. With luck, soon we will be able to land a person on the moon.
 
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It’s time for my story. In 2016 I landed in the Netherlands and took a train. The train had a sign above the toilet asking people not use the toilet while at the station. Reason being the toilet dropped right on to the tracks. Pot meet kettle.
 
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I would think that India has other priorities....

I would have thought Russia would have other priorities right now.
 
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It’s time for my story. In 2016 I landed in the Netherlands and took a train. The train had a sign above the toilet asking people not use the toilet while at the station. Reason being the toilet dropped right on to the tracks. Pot meet kettle.

That was how the train between San Jose and San Francisco worked until quite recently. It was after I was no longer living in the Bay area, probably 2000 or later. And San Jose to San Francisco was a continuously urbanized area since the 1960s.
 
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It's about time we humans made some progress in this area. With luck, soon we will be able to land a person on the moon.

😀
 
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It’s time for my story. In 2016 I landed in the Netherlands and took a train. The train had a sign above the toilet asking people not use the toilet while at the station. Reason being the toilet dropped right on to the tracks. Pot meet kettle.
Sure. Exactly the same situation 😁

And in the meantime the European Investment Bank finances billions of euros for infrastructure investments in India https://www.eeas.europa.eu/india/eu...e EIB,of investment in India's infrastructure.
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Good to hear that this lander includes a rover that will soon go exploring. Also amazing that deep craters and basins exist near the poles that haven't seen sunlight in billions of years!


So if the poles haven’t seen sunlight I take it the rover is not solar ?!


Just asking for a friend that’s too lazy to look it up 😉
 
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So if the poles haven’t seen sunlight I take it the rover is not solar ?!


Just asking for a friend that’s too lazy to look it up 😉


hahahaha, This is not important, India to is the image project, do not need to work。。。。。。。。😁😁😁
 
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So if the poles haven’t seen sunlight I take it the rover is not solar ?!

Reported on BBC radio as "entirely solar powered". Could well be, that would reduce the risk of contamination from water generated in fuel cells.
Wikipedia said:
Scientists used LOLA (Lunar Orbiter Laser Altimeter), which was a device used by NASA to provide an accurate topographic model of the Moon.[17] With this data locations near the south pole at Connecting Ridge, which connects Shackleton Crater to the de Gerlache crater,[7] were found that yielded sunlight for 92.27–95.65% of the time based on altitude ranging from 2 m above ground to 10 m above ground. At the same spots it was discovered that the longest continuous periods of darkness were only 3 to 5 days.[7]

I've just bunged Wikipedia 25 quid, so I'm going to do a lot of looking things up 😁
 
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Shit I got a section of the backyard I haven’t explored, so maybe I need a rover….plenty of sun in northern Australia…..