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If anyone familiar with Dogma military watches?

DManzaluni
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I just got this WWII Dogma with extraordinary markings.
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The bezel is marked COL P.F. REED, which sounds decidedly English

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Dogma was known to have made military watches which they sold to the wehrmacht.

I wonder if it possible that a supplier of military watches could have supplied both sides during the war?

Even more mysterious is the Arabic 'wording' on the rear that I have yet to identify. Unless it means chum-of-Amin al-Husayni, and he WAS a Wehrmacht spy in Jerusalem! [I admit, slightly unlikely]

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What does anyone make of the curious 'pointilliste' home-made engraving?
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Tony C.
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As I am lazy, I prefer their "Dogmatic" models. 🙄
 
Vitezi
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According to Mikrolisk, Dogma was a wordmark of Fabrique d'Horlogerie Arthus Dorsaz & Co. in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, first registered in July 1949.
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So your example would be post-WWII.
 
DManzaluni
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OK So wehrmacht meant 1950s Wehrmacht and it could have been a NATO issued watch and all the people who are advertising their watches as WW!! may be exaggerating? Or was Dogma a name used between 1860-1970 by the Fabrique d'Horloges Clémence Freres & Cie. which was called A. Dorsaz & Cie after 1949?
 
Dan S
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Dogma did make issued "DH" watches but they are clearly marked. Does yours have the standard DH markings on the back? If not, it could be a later civilian version.
 
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DManzaluni DManzaluni
I just got this WWII Dogma with extraordinary markings.
20180917_104245.jpg


The bezel is marked COL P.F. REED, which sounds decidedly English

20180917_104612.jpg


But
Dogma was known to have made military watches which they sold to the wehrmacht.

I wonder if it possible that a supplier of military watches could have supplied both sides during the war?

Even more mysterious is the Arabic 'wording' on the rear that I have yet to identify. Unless it means chum-of-Amin al-Husayni, and he WAS a Wehrmacht spy in Jerusalem! [I admit, slightly unlikely]

20180910_202154.jpg


What does anyone make of the curious 'pointilliste' home-made engraving?
That's a cool looking piece. Congrats. Share some pics of the movement?
 
Vitezi
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DManzaluni DManzaluni
Or was Dogma a name used between 1860-1970 by the Fabrique d'Horloges Clémence Freres & Cie. which was called A. Dorsaz & Cie after 1949?
Yes, you're right. The wordmark Dogma was also registered with Clemence Freres in 1929 for 'clocks and clock parts.'
 
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