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If anyone familiar with Dogma military watches?

  1. DManzaluni Sep 17, 2018

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    I just got this WWII Dogma with extraordinary markings.
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    The bezel is marked COL P.F. REED, which sounds decidedly English

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    Dogma was known to have made military watches which they sold to the wehrmacht.

    I wonder if it possible that a supplier of military watches could have supplied both sides during the war?

    Even more mysterious is the Arabic 'wording' on the rear that I have yet to identify. Unless it means chum-of-Amin al-Husayni, and he WAS a Wehrmacht spy in Jerusalem! [I admit, slightly unlikely]

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    What does anyone make of the curious 'pointilliste' home-made engraving?
     
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  2. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Sep 17, 2018

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    As I am lazy, I prefer their "Dogmatic" models. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Vitezi Sep 17, 2018

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    According to Mikrolisk, Dogma was a wordmark of Fabrique d'Horlogerie Arthus Dorsaz & Co. in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, first registered in July 1949.
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    So your example would be post-WWII.
     
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  4. Vitezi Sep 17, 2018

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    From 1954:
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    1953 DOGMA.jpg
     
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  5. DManzaluni Sep 17, 2018

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    OK So wehrmacht meant 1950s Wehrmacht and it could have been a NATO issued watch and all the people who are advertising their watches as WW!! may be exaggerating? Or was Dogma a name used between 1860-1970 by the Fabrique d'Horloges Clémence Freres & Cie. which was called A. Dorsaz & Cie after 1949?
     
  6. Dan S Sep 17, 2018

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    Dogma did make issued "DH" watches but they are clearly marked. Does yours have the standard DH markings on the back? If not, it could be a later civilian version.
     
  7. MauiSurfBrah Sep 17, 2018

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    That's a cool looking piece. Congrats. Share some pics of the movement?
     
  8. Vitezi Sep 17, 2018

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    Yes, you're right. The wordmark Dogma was also registered with Clemence Freres in 1929 for 'clocks and clock parts.'