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  1. Keldaar Feb 20, 2019

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    Hi all. Just picked this up on a trade. Dial looks good to me .Lugs are pretty wonky and look poorly repaired at some point. . I think it's solid 18k but not sure. No caseback stamp. Assuming it's not original crown, although it is omega. It would have been gold original right? Does the mystery caseback and other issues kill the value of it? Is it worth/possible 20190220_213738.jpg 20190220_213913.jpg 20190220_213756.jpg 20190220_213738.jpg 20190220_213931.jpg 20190220_213815.jpg getting the lugs professionally repaired? Any and all input is appreciated .
     
  2. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 20, 2019

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    Its not an Omega or even SWISS case so that greatly diminishes the desirability/value. The poor repairs don't help either. These tend to have significantly less gold content than a SWISS or even American case.

    Probably South American.

    Interesting dial is it's best/only asset really.
     
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  3. Keldaar Feb 20, 2019

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    Well that's a drag. Would it be a franken then? Dial and movement are omega. Did they let anyone case them at that time, or is it more likely it came from a genuine case that they replaced for some reason?
     
  4. speedb Feb 20, 2019

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    I believe it might be a franken, one of the bridges has '283' stamped on it (which was a 17j movement), while the rest of the movement looks to be a 30t2. Although the movements shared components, collectors would be put off seeing something like that.
    That being said, you may want to wait for another more experienced member confirm what I've observed.
     
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  5. Keldaar Feb 20, 2019

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    Thanks .appreciate the insight
     
  6. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Feb 20, 2019

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    Under the balance, I don't see any stamping (30T2)
     
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  7. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 20, 2019

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    It's a caliber 265 (265 30 T3 PC AM p15) which was introduced in 1949 and the serial dates it to around 1950 or so.

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    The case is probably a locally produced one. This was common at that time due to heavy customs levies on gold imported to some countries so the local agent imported the movements and had the cases produced by a local company.

    This was common in the USA, Australia, South America and many other countries.
     
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  8. Keldaar Feb 20, 2019

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    Cool. Thanks for the info .so does this watch have a name or model number? Or because of the case is it just a 1950 omega?
     
  9. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 20, 2019

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    :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Keldaar Feb 20, 2019

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    is it worth a 3 or 4 hundred?
     
  11. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Feb 20, 2019

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    To a collector no, to someone who wants a gold Omega, maybe.
     
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  12. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Feb 20, 2019

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    Or you can buy a 9ct Dennison case to put it in.
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  13. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Feb 20, 2019

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    But then it would be a franken!

    ;)
     
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  14. François Pépin Feb 21, 2019

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    Nice dial. Not a Franken, but as said a foreign cased Omega. As it is not French, English or American, thee is no reference or serial number on the case back. So less info and less collectivity. And usually less gold content.

    The movement could perfectly be a 283. Hard to be sure because I cannot see well the jewels member and because the balance may be moving while the pic has been taken. So we cannot see its shape.
     
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  15. Keldaar Feb 21, 2019

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    Thank you all for your help. Your collective knowledge is truly a gem
     
  16. François Pépin Feb 21, 2019

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    I have looked at the movement pic on a computer steam - usually I use my phone - and the number if jewels, wether it is 15 or 16, does not match the 283 design (17 j). And the train wheel bridge and the barrel bridges do not appear to have the same color. So the movement is a put together. Likely someone replaced parts with what they could find.

    I still would not call this watch a Franken, but it hurts the value for sure. Although, it would be hard to replace the train bridge with a correct one - more difficult to find an exact match for the color!