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I think this is fake. Report?

  1. ashleysteadman Jul 14, 2014

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  2. bieb1 Jul 14, 2014

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    Interesting. Omega does list a caliber 961 on their caliber list under " old caliber" category 3. The 41XXX would date it to around 1978. I have no idea what type of watch they were used in though.
     
  3. Stewart H Honorary NJ Resident Jul 14, 2014

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    AJTT gives the 961 as being based on the Unitas UT 6497 and they produced 107 of them in 1979.

    There are a number of differences between the eBay movement and the drawing in AJTT. The barrel bridge with the 961 marking, does look correct but the balance cock is a different shape and the individual wheel cocks are a single bridge in the drawing.

    I can't comment on the case and dial.
     
  4. bieb1 Jul 14, 2014

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    Found several other brand versions containing the UT 6497 with similar dial layout via Google. Nothing Omega though.

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  5. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 14, 2014

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    Yes, it's based on the UT 6497. The 961 has the sub-seconds and the 960 version deletes the seconds, so just hours and minutes.

    Note that many places that are claiming a UT 6497 inside are actually using the modern ETA version. The old Unitas versions are no where near as common as the ETA versions are, and yes there are some differences. I use the ETA versions in many of the watch I make and sell.

    Note that Omega now uses the modern ETA 6498-2 in some of their watches - someone here bought one not that long ago but found it too big. They now call it a Cal. 2201.

    Cheers, Al
     
  6. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Jul 14, 2014

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    Oh, and yes the case, dial and hands are made by a company in Switzerland I used to deal with many years ago - the watch as a whole is fake for sure.
     
  7. bieb1 Jul 14, 2014

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  8. Siac Jul 14, 2014

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    What's this watch, please?
     
  9. bieb1 Jul 14, 2014

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    A brand called Altanus. New "vintage style" pilot watch with UT 6497 movement inside. This model was from around 2007 I think. Not my watch, but as mentioned I found the picture via Google as an example of UT 6497 watches.
     
  10. NT931 Jul 14, 2014

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    Hmm, I personally would avoid a watch brand whose name ended in "anus" :-0
     
  11. ashleysteadman Jul 17, 2014

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    Thanks all, don't forget to report this item! :)