I love a good auction result (non watch content)

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I too collect Chinese ceramics and dream lol.

Its just unfortunate that 99.9% of what looks like the real thing are fakes.

I think the Lincolnshire piece has been very undersold and that the auction house has probably done the family a great disservice in not properly researching the item first or casting the advertising net wider.

The winning bidder got a bargain and is likely to turn around and sell it for 20 plus million.

Now I wish I could find a Speedmaster pre-moon for 40 bucks!
 
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So basically the auction house proved that they weren’t able to provide a service of better quality to their customer than Ebay in properly evaluate the quality / value of items… Great job 👍

Always amazed that people see this as a good auction result, when to me it appears like a huge flaw in the valuation process of the auction house.

I guess that any publicity is good enough to be taken anyway…
 
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…Always amazed that people see this as a good auction result, when to me it appears like a huge flaw in the valuation process of the auction house…

It reminds me of an early Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Mil-Spec that was in a watch lot with a US auctioneer (along with an even rarer military watch that was probably minimum $5k). It was terribly listed with no estimate and sold for around $700. Then the auctioneer put the pictures and achieved price in their “amazing recent results“ section right on their home-page. It was there for months. An amazing recent result for sure, but of course only for the buyer. I know the BP was subsequently sold at Christies…

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I too collect Chinese ceramics and dream lol.

Its just unfortunate that 99.9% of what looks like the real thing are fakes.

I think the Lincolnshire piece has been very undersold and that the auction house has probably done the family a great disservice in not properly researching the item first or casting the advertising net wider.

The winning bidder got a bargain and is likely to turn around and sell it for 20 plus million.

Now I wish I could find a Speedmaster pre-moon for 40 bucks!

This was my feeling as well when I saw that the Ru-ware saucer had sold for $38000000
 
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This was my feeling as well when I saw that the Ru-ware saucer had sold for $38000000
Wholly molly. I only just noticed that too at the foot of the article article. That changes things somewhat 🙁 Doh
 
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Wholly molly. I only just noticed that too at the foot of the article article. That changes things somewhat 🙁 Doh

Yeah your telling me, unfortunately there probably isn't much comeback on the auctioneers for being useless dipsticks!
In this case sheer incompetence at the most basic level, I feel certain that any google search of Ru ceramics would have very quickly pointed out the rarity and the recent auction price realisations, shame you cant sue them.
 
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Yeah your telling me, unfortunately there probably isn't much comeback on the auctioneers for being useless dipsticks!
In this case sheer incompetence at the most basic level, I feel certain that any google search of Ru ceramics would have very quickly pointed out the rarity and the recent auction price realisations, shame you cant sue them.

I think the issue for the auctioneer of a general auction would be having the depth of knowledge to identify it as such in the first place. I can't imagine it is marked "Ru' on the bottom and I would assume Chinese ceramics and pottery are extremely specialist areas.
 
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I think the issue for the auctioneer of a general auction would be having the depth of knowledge to identify it as such in the first place. I can't imagine it is marked "Ru' on the bottom and I would assume Chinese ceramics and pottery are extremely specialist areas.

Agreed but they do claim expertise in Asian ceramics https://www.stamfordauctionrooms.com/asian-art/

I also note there absence of comment on their website regarding this sale where other much lower realised pricing on ceramics are being touted, so I am guessing this sale is nothing to be proud of in hind sight for them.

I agree about being extremely specialist, fakes are incredibly hard to determine and genuine examples even harder.
 
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The collectors saw the value, and two of them were ok to spend more than 300k on it. I’m going to assume that they are not complete idiots with a lot of money, and that therefore, they saw the value with the same infos (or less) than the auction house.

Again, complete shame, can’t only imagine the disappointment when they all realised that it was a bargain… And the smile of the buyer, already posting a nice picture on ruwareforums.com in a « barn finds » thread 😁

Or we are the only ones to do that? 🤪
 
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Reading about Ru ware, I’ve just stumbled upon a picture…



The exact same vessel is pictured on Wikipedia, from the Cincinnati museum…

::facepalm1::::facepalm1::::facepalm1::
 
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I’ve been watching the mecum auto auctions recently, pretty entertaining.