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Hi dear members,

I really like this forum, lots of epic info, thx everyone of you for this opportunity.

Let's come to the topic. My wife's family gave me a vintage watch, they believe it's Omega, unfortunatly i'm pretty sure it's not original.
It wasn't ticking, i took it to my local repairman, he said that it's real too!
He said movement's name is "BF-something (i cannot remember number)" and swiss made.
Btw he is almost 75 years old, repairing watches for 55-60 years and i trust him, but what he said didn't feel me right. Maybe he didn't come across to Omega watches before. Anyway he fixed it and watch is ticking now.

Need your expert opinion so i can tell my family and my repairman it's fake, or they're right i'm wrong 😀

Thanks for your help, best wishes everyone...


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ahsposo
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Does this mean you can give the bride back?
 
TimeODanaos
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You may need to be tactful with the fam about this, because it's not even a close call. Maybe- if you're in an English speaking country - your repairman had something in his mind when he said "BF".
Just for your own peace of mind - Omega didn't put the legends shown on the outside of the caseback; the inscription in the triangle should say Omega Watch Co.; the hammerhead and the lady's head only appear on solid gold pieces; the stampings are too large and crude (lady Helvetia would normally be match-head size); the movement is rather basic and doesn't have the characteristic copper-effect finish.
Your picture of the dial isn't good enough to comment on properly, but I already don't have a good feeling about it, sorry.
Your instinct was right, but hey, not everyone ever gets a watch from their relatives! You've played this the right way, so good luck!
 
Dan S
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Definitely some variety of Baumgartner pin-lever movement, hence the "BF". I don't know the specific caliber.
 
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fatimp fatimp
It wasn't ticking, i took it to my local repairman, he said that it's real too!
He said movement's name is "BF-something (i cannot remember number)" and swiss made.
Btw he is almost 75 years old, repairing watches for 55-60 years and i trust him, but what he said didn't feel me right. Maybe he didn't come across to Omega watches before. Anyway he fixed it and watch is ticking now.

😒 Baumgartner = BFG, Swiss Made all right but if he thinks it is a real Omega, don't put too much trust on him... find another one.
 
bardamu
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In Italy we call these "autogrill fakes" because during the 70s at rest areas on the highways it wasn't uncommon being approached by some scammers selling them as rare family treasures.
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JwRosenthal
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As for the watchmaker who said it was real- please don’t go back to him again.
And welcome to the forum!
 
JimInOz
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Ah, I think I have to agree with the crowd, it's a fake.

But it's in very nice condition 😉.
 
fatimp
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bardamu bardamu
In Italy we call these "autogrill fakes" because during the 70s at rest areas on the highways it wasn't uncommon being approached by some scammers selling them as rare family treasures.

That was quite an information, thank you 😀
 
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One of the worst fakes I have ever seen, totally unjeweled movement
Yes, not even 1 jewel, it's crazy ::facepalm1::
 
Starman71
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I think informing the family that it is a fake would make them feel ashamed, and that is not something you want to do to anyone. They could have given you any worthless trinket, so this is actually not such a bad gift.. at least it will make you grin. Personally, I would throw it in my dresser drawer and wear it now and then when you visit the family. It won't hurt you to do so, and will make their hearts glow.
 
Dan S
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Starman71 Starman71
I think informing the family that it is a fake would make them feel ashamed, and that is not something you want to do to anyone. They could have given you any worthless trinket, so this is actually not such a bad gift.. at least it will make you grin. Personally, I would throw it in my dresser drawer and wear it now and then when you visit the family. It won't hurt you to do so, and will make their hearts glow.

Perfect advice. And frankly, the OP was lucky to find a watchmaker who would work on that movement.
 
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As stated it's an older fake. You're wife's family likely has had it for years and may not have known. I'd avoid embarrassing them and just wear it when they're around.
 
JwRosenthal
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My step-father said he had his uncle’s Leica somewhere, it was “the finest camera in world” when he bought it in the 50’s (I am a photographer, I have a few). He gave it to me when he found it- it was a Kodak Retina...a nice camera in its day, but no Leica.
My watchmaker has told me about customers bringing him family heirloom clocks that their grandfather purchased in the 30’s in Germany- precious and rare- turns out to be a 70’s era plastic Hong Kong cookoo clock.
Lots of things either get glorified or distorted in family lore- just roll with it and silently know what it is
 
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My dad (and his cousin) had some red cut glass crystalware. I believe it's from the Czech republic. I always thought that their parents brought it with them from Europe. Or picked it up on a trip. Anyway, when my dad was downsizing, he sent it all to me (the movers did a TERRIBLE job packing it, but nothing broke, thank goodness). Anyway, I picked up a vase and there was a price tag on the bottom. From a department store in Altoona. My dad's cousin grew up there. So either my grandparents picked it up when they were visiting my grandmother's sister, or the sister bought it as a gift and forgot to remove the label. The stuff's still from Europe, but it has a...less exotic provenance. 😀
 
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