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  1. BrianG4674 Aug 22, 2012

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    Hi Folks,
    I'm new to this forum and a real novice with regard to watch collecting. I have about 8 watches of different types, nothing very expensive, but each different in one way or another.
    I am thinking of adding an Omega, a Geneve manual wind, gold plate 20 microns, (can't afford real gold). It is a calibre 601 movement 32660202, 17 jewel. The case back is a press fit and is marked
    1310042 10A5.
    Does this seem genuine? I have tried feeding the 1310042 into the Omega database but it doesn't seem to fit in with this watch. Mind you it must surely happen that case backs could get mixed up in poorly run workshops and end up on the wrong watches. What do you think?
    I hope to buy something better later when I have gained some knowledge. Cheers Brian.
     
  2. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 22, 2012

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    How much are you looking at paying for it?
     
  3. BrianG4674 Aug 22, 2012

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    I am negotiating still but wouldn't like to pay more than £150 which is about $250.
     
  4. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Aug 22, 2012

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    Is this the one?

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    Go back to the database and enter "131.0042". It should return a watch with the case reference number 131.0052. It seems to be the same watch with a date feature.

    Take care,
    gatorcpa
     
  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 22, 2012

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    20 mic gold plated cases are easy to flake off to bare base metal like this Geneve. You should be very careful with the condition of the case before buying one

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  6. BrianG4674 Aug 22, 2012

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    Geneve 2.jpg Geneve 2 Movement.jpg I will try uploading some photos I've received Geneve 2.jpg Geneve 2 Movement.jpg
     
  7. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 22, 2012

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    That looks better. On newer models, they used different kind of base metal which has the same color with the plated gold and blends very well after being worn out
     
  8. BrianG4674 Aug 22, 2012

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    What is your opinion? Genuine or not? Looks too good to me
     
  9. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 22, 2012

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    It's original and authentic for sure.
     
  10. BrianG4674 Aug 22, 2012

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    Thanks for that. Now all I have to do is see how much I can knock it down!
     
  11. BrianG4674 Aug 30, 2012

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    Absolutely delighted with this, my first Omega. It rely is a beautiful, classic design to be worn evenings and special occasions. I only have one other manual wind watch, a
    Jaeger Le Coultre. When winding the Jaeger I am never aware of over winding, or even aware of when it is fully wound. With the Geneve it feels very different.

    My questions therefor are:-

    How many turns are normally needed to fully wind?

    and How long would you expect this watch to run when fully wound?

    p.s. I think of a turn being, in practice, 180 degrees of the crown.

    Thanks Folks. Brian
     
  12. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 30, 2012

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    Should be about 50 hours if fully serviced, guessing around 40-50 turns until wound.

    I'm not sure but most manual wind watches when fully wound stop winding
     
  13. BrianG4674 Aug 30, 2012

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    50 hours seems a pretty long, I doubt this one is doing anything like that. I must say I was only expecting similar time to a 30 hr clock. Just doing a more accurate timing.
     
  14. BrianG4674 Aug 31, 2012

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    I will one day learn to be more careful, MAYBE|| The Geneve is only running for 20 hrs|| The Jaeger, which I have never checked before although I've had it for 40yrs, is still running after 23hrs. The Geneve is in beautiful condition visually and I really like it, and I suppose for a dress watch it is still useable. What do you think the problem is with this watch and what would you do if it was yours?
     
  15. ulackfocus Aug 31, 2012

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    Get it serviced. Don't run a mechanical watch without proper lubrication or you'll damage parts inside.