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How to get a Baume et Mercier appraisal?

  1. northarldad Aug 25, 2018

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    I have a 1980s B&M watch but no idea of the value. I have scoured the web, and not found anything. Hoping someone here will have a few constructive thoughts on how to get this watch appraised.

    Thanks, in advance.
     
  2. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 25, 2018

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    Have you tried eBay SOLD listings?
     
  3. OmegaSean Aug 26, 2018

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    chrono24 they have lots of vintage watches on the site to compere?
    OmegaSean
     
  4. Davidt Aug 26, 2018

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    You'll also need to understand the differences between various appraisals, insurance valuations and valuations from various sources.

    A typical insurance valuation will value watches/jewellery at up to 5x actual market value.
     
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  5. northarldad Aug 26, 2018

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    Thanks. I have yet to find the same model watch anywhere, thus my problem finding a basic appraisal.
     
  6. Dan S Aug 26, 2018

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    Maybe you can explain exactly what you are looking for. An official appraisal for insurance purposes? An approximate valuation for use as a buyer or seller?

    If you'd like help from the experts on the forum, you should provide photos of the watch and the model/reference #.
     
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  7. northarldad Aug 26, 2018

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    Dear Dan: Thanks and good advice.

    I had posted in an earlier post that got no replies. I am seeking to get a sense of fair market value. I am interested in buying a Omega Speedmaster moonwatch with the sale proceeds.

    Here are photos from the watch. I believe it is a Van Cleef and Arpel version of a B&M from the early 1980s.

    #s on back at
    37077
    821958

    I have asked an auction house for an estimate with no luck. B&M itself has not been responsive.

    Any and all leads appreciated.

    Jon
     
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  8. Dero13 4 watches. All set to the wrong time. Aug 26, 2018

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  9. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Aug 26, 2018

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    Quartz though...

    I don’t see hallmarks either. The only ones of these I see are hand wound which would price them higher.

    Really hard to gauge but I’d guess it would get about 5-600 is on eBay at most with a chance of a lot less.
     
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  10. michael22 Aug 26, 2018

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    Hallmarks may be inside the case back.
     
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  11. northarldad Aug 27, 2018

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  12. Davidt Aug 27, 2018

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    1. They are an established jeweller and will treat a Watch such as this like a piece of jewellery (I.e. A private seller will likely get around a quarter, max, of their asking price).

    2. Theirs is a mechanical which is more desirable than a quartz.

    The diamonds are small and won't add much value to your watch.

    I'd say the estimate that @Foo2rama gave is probably accurate.
     
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  13. Dan S Aug 27, 2018

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    That website shows a mechanical watch, which is more valuable than quartz, but still that $2,500 asking price is absurd.

    Unfortunately, a quartz watch like this is not of interest to collectors, so it's basically a pre-owned fashion watch, not a collectible vintage watch. I would take a look at some of the pre-owned consignment sites like therealreal and truefacet, but keep in mind that yours is quartz, and also that their asking prices are often about 50% over market value.

    The watch is small, so the scrap value of the gold and diamonds is also not going to be very high. My gut feeling agrees with @Foo2rama that you would be very lucky to get $500, and that's assuming it's solid gold.
     
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  14. northarldad Aug 27, 2018

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    Thanks all for the thoughtful and informed input. Very helpful and appreciated. OF a terrific resource.
     
  15. northarldad Sep 14, 2018

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    FYI I found out a bit more from B&M. It is a 1970s Diamant Quartz with 18k gold and a sapphire crystal. I am getting it appraised as a piece of jewelry for the gold and diamond value and then will see what I can to do with it. Thanks
     
  16. Davidt Sep 14, 2018

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    Make sure they are clear on what the appraisal is for - is it the value or the insurance value?

    Bear in mind their appraisal may well be 2-5x what a private seller would achieve in a sale. If you have any doubt about this, once they have appraised it, see if they wish to purchase it for close to their valuation.