how much of a fail boat is the trilogy series?

i'm not saying i don't like them, or that i don't want them, but man,...how much of bath are peeps taking with them?

-3500+ doesn't rally translate into LE. they seem to be everywhere, heavily discounted pre-owned and new from a very high opening msrp

i thought there would be more of a deeper market for them, but it seems limited and niche driven...at least for 3500 examples of each.

imo these would have been gobbled up if their pricing wasn't so high.

I don’t know that they could be called a failure at all. At least when it comes to the speedmaster and Seamaster, omega seems to have sold every unit they made. That’s a success. Are they a failure for flippers? Possibly, but who cares?

I bought a speedmaster 60th a couple months ago and I love it, and have no plans to sell. If at some point I do, I’ll likely get what I paid for it, so no loss there. And even if I have to sell it for less than I paid, I will have gotten a couple years of enjoyment out of it, so any loss on a sale is just what I paid to use it for X years. If you’re buying new watches with the intent to sell, you take on the risk and own the loss. If you’re buying because you want the watch, how can you lose?

Personally, I think the Speedmaster 60th did well as they were well liked and there was good demand for them.

The Seamaster 60th was a mixed bag as people seemed to liked the classic look but it didn't quite live up to the hype in terms of sales.

As for the Railmaster 60th, they are still available for sale on Omega's website.

I think the railmaster was a harder sell since it doesn’t have the same “brand recognition” the Seamaster and speedmaster have. Add to that the lack o any feature beyond telling time, and its clearly the least attractive of the 3. But tepid response to certain LE models happens from time to time. That god-awful speedmaster 40th is still in stock at my local OB...

What honestly surprises me is that omega doesn’t pull these unsold models from the OBs after some time. They could easily be parted out to make service parts, and getting them out of their own stores would at least maintain an air of solid sales.

I have been watching UK pricing on the Speedy version and I would say they have bottomed out at mid £4k with prices creeping up.

It is surprising to me that these are not more highly sought after, maybe a bit too dainty and niche to appeal to the mass market.

The Railmaster is surely becoming a bit of a bargain at £3,500?

I have little doubt that these watches, at least the speedmaster 60th, will be highly sought for at some point in the future. Beyond the fact that these are really superb watches, they are the only option to get almost the original at less than 7 K€ - an original ck2915 in good condition fetches more than 150 K€ nowadays.

If the website shows current availability, the Seamaster and Speedmaster are also not sold out...

May be different in the UK, as none have the 'add to basket' button

This topic has some convenient timing, the 57' Speedy was my original target purchase / intial foray into Omega territory proper.
I swerved and went down a different route(s) however I was looking at the pricing of it again only yesterday , pre-owned vs New and was surpised the pre-owned price was so high, is that a simple numbers game? Or propped up by the age of the pieces / warranties still active?

Based on this rationale, the snoopy and the speedtuesday 2 are also available…
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-...tch-anniversary-limited-series-31132423004003

Ouch.
Maybe one day, as with so many watches , it will swing back around to be a loved 'ltd', guess it has a way to fall first.

I was offered the speedy by my local OB only a couple of months ago, It was only 2 numbers away from my seamaster but I could not take it at the time. I will pop in to see them again next week for a chat and see what they have.

The speedmaster is beautiful and will be a collector item down the road. I just wish I had a lower msrp.

This is what happens with LEs and a culture of flipping, following the wake of the Snoopy and Speedy Tuesday bubble. I have no doubt a lot of the Trilogy being flipped were purchased above market during the hype of the initial release. Then, no surprise, all the flippers are scrambling to sell the bottom a few years later. IMO, the same cycle is going to repeat with the 50th anniversary release (with the exception that I think prices will remain suppressed for the 50th, because it is an awful design with no heritage).

That said, the Railmaster was going for £3.3 - 3.6k from quite early on and the Seamaster is going for around £4 - 4.2k these days. The Speedmaster pre-owned, at least in the UK, has been holding above £4.5k consistently from day one - and that's around 90% of MSRP, which isn't bad at all.

Although, I admit it is unusual walking into a boutique and still seeing the Trilogy Railmaster or Seamaster on the display, I don't think pricing it lower would make a substantial difference - it is simply not the most attractive modern watch (except to a niche). The Speedmaster Trilogy is far more versatile IMO.

I still think it is foolish to decide the market price is a "fail" after 2 years of release, because this is the flipper mindset. For me, it's equivalently irrational for instance to state that the Snoopy is fairly priced at £20k 3-4 years after release. With watches, the most reliable measure of supply/demand for any release in the thousands of units tends to be felt over the long term - 10/20+ years, and anything in between is noise. If you want my opinion, I've little doubt that the Speedmaster is going to be a winner in the long term (barring a strong decline in the brand or watch industry).