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How likely is Omega to release a steel 42mm Moonwatch with 321 calibre?

  1. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ May 18, 2020

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    I've always wanted a "true" Moonwatch... 42mm, steel, c321... even better with hesalite crystal and solid back, just like the actual Moonwatch that was on the moon ;)

    What are the odds for Omega releasing such a watch in the next 5 to 10 years? Or ever?

    Come on Omega, just do it :)
     
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  2. Evitzee

    Evitzee May 18, 2020

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    Not likely Omega will introduce their much hyped 321 movement in a closed back watch when they are asking a super premium for that movement. Hesalite Speedmaster is $5,350, the new Ed White version is $14,100, that's a HUGE $8,750 matzo ball premium. They aren't going to give that up......ever. The chances are slim and none, and slim just left the building.
     
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  3. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector May 18, 2020

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    They already released it. :whistling:

    Probably the same price as a new 321.

    The standard moon watch now is close enough and the best bang for buck.
     
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  4. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ May 19, 2020

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    So, there's not much hope that this will happen anytime soon? No rumors, nothing?

    Well... I'm not losing hope, maybe for the 60th Anniversary they'll do it and ask a lot of money for it (something between 12k - 17k) to make it attractive enough for them commercially.

    I really love the Moonwatch, I was going to buy one until the very last minute when I learned about the watch history and about the current 861/1861 movement not being the actual movement that was on the moon... that was a big turn-off for me, so I bought a Racing speedy instead. But my Moonwatch desire is still here... I'll be waiting patiently (well, not so patiently) for Omega to do it properly ;)
     
  5. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector May 19, 2020

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    But why wouldn’t you just buy a 321 watch from the 60s. You can buy these and you can wear them now. Hundreds of members wear these everyday
    ( the whole myth that you can’t wear a 321 is crazy it’s mostly people that have spent 4 times their budget on a watch that are too scared to wear. )

    Or do you just want a new watch just the same as the real deal.
     
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  6. Meme-Dweller

    Meme-Dweller May 19, 2020

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    I would give my left nut for a new version of the 3572.50 with the 321
     
  7. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ May 19, 2020

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    To be honest, I'm not a big fan of buying used watches (or anything used really), I would much rather have a brand new watch. I'd be scared of potential technical issues or even authenticity concerns...

    Also... as I recall, Omega wasn't making or selling any Speedy Pro with c321 inside after the day of the moon landing, so it's kind of a different thing. But this is maybe going too far :D

    For me what would really work is something like what they already have, the current gorgeous hesalite Moonwatch with the big box, "first watch on the moon" back and all to celebrate the event... but with the c321 inside. ;)
     
  8. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector May 19, 2020

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    Hope they do it and you have to have Windows 1.0 to order it. ;)
     
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  9. larryganz

    larryganz The cable guy May 19, 2020

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    Ummm, I'm kind of attached to mine.
     
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  10. madjestikmoose

    madjestikmoose May 19, 2020

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    I’m sure you’re not the only one, but with all due respect, you’re living in dreamland.
     
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  11. YY77

    YY77 May 19, 2020

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    Does the same go for the right one:whistling:
     
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  12. YY77

    YY77 May 19, 2020

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    I don't really understand the issue, the new 321 is steel, 42mm.

    It's not in Omega' interest to make another steel one with hesalite and closed caseback (cheaper) as the new one is priced at 14k.
     
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  13. texasmade

    texasmade May 19, 2020

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    The new 321 in steel is 39.7mm not 42.
     
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  14. madjestikmoose

    madjestikmoose May 19, 2020

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    The 42mm case measurement is solely based on the inclusion of the crown/pusher guards in later case developments. The original ‘Ed White’ never had these, hence why the reincarnation is measured at 39.7mm. Same goes for the FOIS, CK2998, etc etc.
     
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  15. YY77

    YY77 May 19, 2020

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    My bad.
     
  16. BatDad

    BatDad May 19, 2020

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    I do wonder if the OP has a point.

    Surely there’s a huge potential market there for Omega for folks who want the 105.012 heritage and look(including pushers etc) but aren’t concerned in the other aspects of vintage watch ownership. Essentially - I’d like to travel back in time and ship that watch to now so I can buy it.

    I’m curious if Omega pay much attention to the vintage market. After all aside from service, how much of an income stream is it.

    TL;DR - I’m not sure there isn’t a compelling reason why Omega wouldnt (eventually) release a FOIS like equivalent (not LE) of the 105.012 with 321 movement.

    I’m interested in other folks thoughts

    Edit - full disclosure. I’d like to buy a new steel 105.012 :)
     
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  17. harrymai86

    harrymai86 May 19, 2020

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    That would be a hybrid right? If you said the true moonlanding watch it would be a 69st with cal 861 not 321.
     
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  18. ejj

    ejj May 19, 2020

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    I think we would all buy that watch. But it’s not going to happen. If anything they put a coaxial manual in the current Speedy Pro and charge an extra $1000.
     
  19. Tophership

    Tophership May 19, 2020

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    With all the special editions/limited runs they put out on the speedmaster, I'm sure we'll eventually see something that looks like this. Surely they'll run out of ideas on things people don't want to buy and stay accidentally making ones people want.
     
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  20. Pun

    Pun May 19, 2020

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    But who will buy at that price you're trying to raise!! Or its really THAT big!
    I just was thinking realistically, for a moment...:D

    Ok, ok, I got it, it was just a figure of speech!!
     
    Edited May 19, 2020