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  1. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    Hi folks,

    I wanted to get some general opinions on the value effects of a relumed vintage watch.....let’s stick to Speedies for the sake of conversation.

    Also, would like to point out that i am strictly using the SM101 pricing chart for reference.

    If the relume has been done tastefully, does it really affect value that much? I have seen countless watches for sale that have been relumed and yet still command prices higher than the chart.

    So basically I’m asking how much you weigh relumed hands/dial against value as long as it is disclosed?
     
  2. Rochete

    Rochete Nov 9, 2018

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    Show us your relumed watch :rolleyes:
     
  3. Davidt

    Davidt Nov 9, 2018

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    Depends entirely on how the watch looked prior to the relume.

    A good relume on a mouldy dial will add value.

    A poor relume on an original dial will remove significant value.
     
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  4. rfordo

    rfordo Nov 9, 2018

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    I would be interested to see watches that are relumed and you see selling over sm101 ranges. I'm not saying there are none, I am just curious. Most sellers I see ask a lower price for watches where a relume is stated clearly in their listing (even if they name some special re-lumer, which I always find funny)
     
  5. Gefa

    Gefa Nov 9, 2018

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    ... IMO a watch with relumed dial or hands is comparable with a watch with a polished case ...may be it has a better optical look, but it's a big loss of originality...
     
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  6. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    If you browse the current private sellers listings, I found 3 145.022-69 that are currently FS with relumed dials/hands. Each is head only, and all asking at the “Good” or 2nd price tier.

    It could also be that I am misreading the chart, but wouldn’t a head only watch that is not “all original” be priced closer to “running” or the 1st tier?
     
  7. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    Likewise, that was my take. I would assume pricing closer to “running” on SM101 chart in this case.
     
  8. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    I don’t have one, I’m merely asking in reference to how it affects value.
     
  9. padders

    padders Nov 9, 2018

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    The $400k 2915 which set the bar as the most expensive on the chart was relumed....
     
  10. Dan S

    Dan S Nov 9, 2018

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    In all honesty, I'm having trouble finding three examples of this in the private sales listings, but maybe I'm just not looking carefully enough. Let's use sales prices - not asking prices. Sometimes watches will sit in that forum for months.
     
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  11. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    :eek:
     
  12. DRjre086

    DRjre086 Nov 9, 2018

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    I will see if I can find any actually sold but that’s also why I’m asking if these are respectable prices.
     
  13. tzachi

    tzachi Nov 10, 2018

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    As long as looks untouched even if faded or markers gone, I’d go with original over relume at similar price