Hey you 'muricans ... get those Swiss watches pronto [tariffs and international trade]

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Excuse me but this thread is supposed to be about tariffs and their impact on watches. It is going everywhere but that. I think you are all trying to get my thread shut down. Respectfully of course.
Yep, looks like we are due for separate threads on education and immigration. Plenty to say on those very timely topics.
 
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Yet the entire world wants to be in America.

Yeah, nah, might consider joining Tas Mike but states no way.
 
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Yep, looks like we are due for separate threads on education and immigration. Plenty to say on those very timely topics.
As long as we can fit in how they relate to watches yes. A good watch is needed to time the border guards. In school a watch is needed to time when the lecture ends
 
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Agree, though not necessarily with the same reason as you. When you are poor it is very difficult to avoid a being in debt. Imagine a mother raising a child. She works every day to earn money but it's just enough to pay rent, food, etc. What happens if she misses a day of work because her child has a fever and must stay home? She falls into debt. It is basically survival mode. Her child might get a decent education, but chances are against it because the parent is busy just surviving.
The old saying goes, "It's expensive being poor."
 
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The old saying goes, "It's expensive being poor."

Time to pull out that famous Terry Pratchett quote

Edit: you all know it because everyone here prizes books and education, right?

Clearly. But just because:
Terry Pratchett said:
The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.
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Canadian car dealers are proposing Canada adopt safety standards from Europe, South Korea, and Japan to lessen the reliance on the US
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a64589408/canada-foreign-auto-safety-standard-tariff/

If this happens Canada should prepare themselves for bunch of US car nerds looking to immigrate. 😆

Speaking of automotive, sounds like Subaru is going to increase the number of vehicles built in Japan allotted to Canada instead of sending US built ones to Canada.
 
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"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness."

Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms
 
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"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness."

Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

That's the one.
 
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Also from Terry Pratchett:

“Taxation, gentlemen, is very much like dairy farming. The task is to extract the maximum amount of milk with the minimum amount of moo.”

The current round of tariffs is clearly generating a lot of moo.
 
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It looks like Niagara Specialty Metals will still be able to provide many of the steels Crucible provided.

https://nsm-ny.com/metals-by-industry/#cutlery
Works in progress to be able to have Erasteel supply the steels as per Crucible 👍🏻
Some naming rights may be an issue but basically yes they will keep the steels going for knifemakers.
Prices may be impacted by shipping and Tariffs from France 🇫🇷 🤔

** Niagara was always the place that rolled the crucible steels to make them suitable for the knife market. It didn’t make the steel.
 
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Yet the entire world wants to be in America.
The narrow minded view that most Americans like yourself actually believe this.
Yes there may be many countries with people that do want the American dream.
But nearly all Australian and New Zealand-ers have no such want or need.

As someone who travels to the US yearly for work and has a good deal of world smarts. The blaming on Biden for everything that was a world wide issue like inflation and cost of living always amazes me. The true reason the world changed was no other than the US banking institutions prior to 2008.
Watch “The big short” and tell me different.
 
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In the interest of getting this thread back on topic (lol), Trump has stated that tariffs on Chinese goods will come down substantially. My very serious questions are what deal or promises were secured from China that he made this statement; or, what jobs are we creating that backing off the tariffs now makes sense?
Trump made a non sensical comment ? No substance there ? Don`t search for Logic with him. Everything now is to calm the Bond market. Japan and China have sooo many USA Government Bonds , that a combined sale event will instantly bankrupt the USA. And it will happen, when you poke the Panda Bear further.
 
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If I wrote what I think MAGA stands for, this thread would be shut down.

I’ll just let you all guess.
gatorcpa
Make Australia Great Again . Which makes no sense. Australia was, is and always will be Great . And as a life long staunch Ally of the USA , we only got 10% Tariffs and always had a negative Trade Balance with the USA .... Good times ! China takes our vast Minerals anyway. And the upcoming Federal Election in 4 days , will annihilate the Liberal Opposition . Like Canada did. Our Opposition Leader did read the Room wrong. Started as a Mini Trump ... Funny to watch.
 
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Yet the entire world wants to be in America.
Not quite the WHOLE world.
The USA is an amazing country full of (mostly) nice people.
But ATM it's not somewhere I want to visit again.
 
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So no interest in Danner boots? Come from the same town as Leatherman.

Edit: we also export a lot of trees/lumber. A day doesn't go buy where I don't see a lumber truck. We have pretty great wine, too, although not cheap. Great beer.

And planes, although they have parts from all around the world and aren't made in my state.

Still, your point is taken.

 
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The narrow minded view that most Americans like yourself actually believe this.
Yes there may be many countries with people that do want the American dream.
But nearly all Australian and New Zealand-ers have no such want or need.
Yeah it's a funny claim, and I guess if you live there you might hear it enough to believe it's true. My wife and I have both had job opportunities in the US, and every time we have refused (the impromptu job offer from the Honolulu Omega boutique was tempting I will say).

I've personally been to at least 25 US states, plus DC. Many wonderful places and people. Zero desire to live there...
 
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Just sharing another anecdote about tariff impacts: my friend's husband is a restaurateur and has been scaling up his import operations, with contracts to sell Indian foods in big box grocery stores in the mid-Atlantic.

He was saying that the current situation basically ate all his profits but he's scared to pass on the full costs to the partners yet. He's going to break even until he feels like he understands where this all heading, but the impact on MSRP for imported foods looks like it'll be substantial. Edit: I talked to him more and it sounds like it's almost an extra $700K of tariffs on a $3 mil shipment.

Politicians love to do lip service to small businesses and entrepreneurs, but this guy's not going to be able to lobby for an exemption the way Apple can.
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