Help with Vintage 1960’s Seamaster De Ville Crown…

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

Hi all,
Just looking for some helpful advice, please and thank you…
I believe this crown looks correct but I’m not an expert.
Do we think this is the correct crown for the reference?
Thanks in advance

 

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

And while we’re at it… I’m almost positive the dial is fine but the hands?
Thank you!

 

Posts

590

Likes

1,776

GuiltyGear

·Jan 23, 2024

Is it a 166.020? I have one with a different dial configuration: photo, more photos. The crown looks like a replacement. The hands too in my eye; they're supposed to have a black part and the hour hand looks too long, but I may be wrong.

 

Posts

13,476

Likes

31,743

X350 XJR

·Jan 23, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Hands look fine as this appears to be a no lume dial. Original crown would be scalloped, but this one might have been a legitimate replacement as the scalloped one was NLA for awhile.

 

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

Hmm yeah they are usually like that… yes that is the reference number. Thanks for your help, I’m not sure…

 

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

X350 XJR

Hands look fine as this appears to be a no lume dial. Original crown would be scalloped, but this one might have been a legitimate replacement as the scalloped one was NLA for awhile.

Oh ok… man you guys are all awesome haha

 

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 23, 2024

You guys notice the omega and automatic seemingly being uneven?

 

Posts

12,839

Likes

22,166

Davidt

·Jan 23, 2024

Agree the dial is original but not in the best shape. Crown is certainly not original.
There’s a lot of DeVilles around in great condition so it’s not a model where one should compromise on quality imo

 

Posts

13,476

Likes

31,743

X350 XJR

·Jan 23, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

 

Posts

33,019

Likes

37,794

dsio

·Jan 23, 2024·Ash @ ΩF

Title edited to make it more helpful 👍

 

Posts

2,643

Likes

5,329

SOG53

·Jan 23, 2024

Crown shots same reference

 

Posts

33,019

Likes

37,794

dsio

·Jan 23, 2024·Ash @ ΩF

Those scalloped crowns are my favorite of that whole era, I use them even on some Constellations and early Seamasters which should have clover or decagonal crowns since they’re much easier to grip and pull yet still look good and fit the design of the watch.

 

Posts

935

Likes

3,780

qazwsx1

·Jan 23, 2024

@dsio , the scalloped crowns are my favorite too.

 

Posts

7,763

Likes

35,347

cristos71

·Jan 24, 2024

qazwsx1

@dsio , the scalloped crowns are my favorite too.

Do you have the specifictions of these three crown types....as I have about 15 pieces in steel but I'm not sure of which type

Edited: Jan 24, 2024

 

C

Posts

553

Likes

970

CLA05

·Jan 24, 2024

Very much appreciated all 😀

 

Posts

935

Likes

3,780

qazwsx1

·Jan 24, 2024

cristos71

Do you have the specifictions of these three crown types....as I have about 15 pieces in steel but I'm not sure of which type

Hi @cristos71 , in my opinion, there are 3 types of scalloped crown which was differentiated by their dimensions.

I posted the information with all three examples here:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/the...onstellation-crowns.54568/page-3#post-2284117

I found this watch (ref. 14770 from omegaenthusiast) with this crown.

Also, I found the reference 166.020 with the same hour-markers pattern.

I believe that “4203” might be the correct one?
@SOG53 , can you measure your crown and share some information?

Edited: Jan 24, 2024

 

Posts

13,476

Likes

31,743

X350 XJR

·Jan 25, 2024·Vintage Omega Aficionado

So if you weren't confused enough already...

The uni-shell cases (14725, 166.020, etc) were originally fitted with crowns which had the female portion of the stem fixed as an integral part of the crown (they didn't unscrew). Crown size and stem length were related to the reference and or caliber family.