Help with valuation & originality check - Omega Constellation Pie Pan Ref. 2852, Cal. 505 (Arrowhead Dial)

hoonypoon · Thurs. 11:59pm

Hi everyone,

I recently came across an Omega Constellation pie pan and would really appreciate your help with a valuation and originality check. I’ve attached detailed photos of the dial, case, movement, and caseback.

Details:

Reference: 2852 / 10 SC
Movement: Cal. 505 (appears correct for the reference)
Case: Gold-capped
Dial: Pie pan with arrowhead markers, seems original with patina and spotting
Size: 35 mm
Strap: Aftermarket
Condition: Runs at about -15 sec/day (likely needs a service)
No known service history

The movement and caseback numbers seem to match the reference, but I’d love confirmation from the experts here to make sure it’s not a franken.

Questions:

Does everything look original/authentic for this reference?
Is the dial consistent with known original variants of the 2852?
What would be a fair market value in the current condition (with the patina and the need for service)? It is posted for $1500 shipped or best offer
Any major issues I should be aware of?

I really appreciate any insight. This one has a lot of charm, but I want to be sure I’m evaluating it correctly before moving forward. Thanks in advance!

cristos71 · Fri. 4:21am

Wrong crown, wrong seconds hand, the dial is not in good condition and has what looks to be also water staining around the 2 and 3 o'clock indices, although hard to tell from those terrible over exposed photo's ( terrible for a reason? ) It could have also have had a cleaning attempt as the minute indices in the same region look faded.

It would be a big pass for me at $1500 and I wouldn't recommend that you buy it at any price over $750 as I don't think think it would be satisfying to wear. At $750 at least you could say that you own a 505 piepan.

seekingseaquest · Fri. 6:35am

Yes, dial cleaned IMO. I’d hold out if you can, though a nice one will likely cost you over $1500.

hoonypoon · Fri. 3:32pm

cristos71
Wrong crown, wrong seconds hand, the dial is not in good condition and has what looks to be also water staining around the 2 and 3 o'clock indices, although hard to tell from those terrible over exposed photo's ( terrible for a reason? ) It could have also have had a cleaning attempt as the minute indices in the same region look faded.

It would be a big pass for me at $1500 and I wouldn't recommend that you buy it at any price over $750 as I don't think think it would be satisfying to wear. At $750 at least you could say that you own a 505 piepan.

Thank you for your insight. With your guidance, I'll pass on it.

hoonypoon · Fri. 3:32pm

seekingseaquest
Yes, dial cleaned IMO. I’d hold out if you can, though a nice one will likely cost you over $1500.

Thank you!

PatinaLover · Fri. 6:02pm

cristos71
Wrong crown, wrong seconds hand, the dial is not in good condition and has what looks to be also water staining around the 2 and 3 o'clock indices, although hard to tell from those terrible over exposed photo's ( terrible for a reason? ) It could have also have had a cleaning attempt as the minute indices in the same region look faded.

It would be a big pass for me at $1500 and I wouldn't recommend that you buy it at any price over $750 as I don't think think it would be satisfying to wear. At $750 at least you could say that you own a 505 piepan.

I wouldn't even touch it. I've learned if u buy a nice watch, don't buy one because it's cheap, buy it because it's a nice example. Could have a bunch of stuff you don't know about under the hood.

dsio · Fri. 6:19pm

cristos71
Wrong crown, wrong seconds hand, the dial is not in good condition and has what looks to be also water staining around the 2 and 3 o'clock indices, although hard to tell from those terrible over exposed photo's ( terrible for a reason? ) It could have also have had a cleaning attempt as the minute indices in the same region look faded.

It would be a big pass for me at $1500 and I wouldn't recommend that you buy it at any price over $750 as I don't think think it would be satisfying to wear. At $750 at least you could say that you own a 505 piepan.

Agreed, its a very rough example indeed, doesn't look aesthetically pleasing at all

Faz · Fri. 10:45pm

How much?

MEGAmole · Fri. 10:58pm

The problem with all of the poor example pie-pan Constellations is that the price never reflects the condition. I'd love to pick up a $600 ugly duckling but it will never happen.

Help with valuation & originality check - Omega Constellation Pie Pan Ref. 2852, Cal. 505 (Arrowhead Dial)

hoonypoon

cristos71

seekingseaquest

hoonypoon

hoonypoon

PatinaLover

dsio

Faz

MEGAmole

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