Help with valuation 167.015

gatorcpa · Sun. 4:02pm

C clockoclock
Checking eBay has never really given me much confidence in determining prices.

Why? It is the world’s only truly global auction site. Completed auction results can be filtered by country or region if you like.

C clockoclock
And the auction results on eBay? Ridiculous, imo.

Yes, eBay auctions are not done in a traditional format. Yes, there are times that auctions have been manipulated. But it’s the only place you are likely to find completed auction results covering pretty much any watch you can think of.

You have to learn how to use the results you find there. There will always be auctions that you need to discard because of reserves not being met or bad sellers who “invent” reserves after auctions end. Just need some experience in using that information.

Chrono24 I find totally useless as an archive because all you see is original asking prices, not the price at which the transactions actually happened.

Another good source would be smaller auction houses than deal with mid-range material. Some of these do not have easily searchable databases and you always need to filter out buyer’s fees, which you don’t have to do on eBay.

One last thing, I’m going to ask you nicely to please turn down the snark in some of your posts. We try to be patient with appraisal requests, but when they start coming in bunches, I think you can understand why this rubs some members the wrong way.

Thank you in advance for understanding.
gatorcpa

clockoclock · Sun. 4:27pm

gatorcpa
Why? It is the world’s only truly global auction site. Completed auction results can be filtered by country or region if you like.

That’s a good question. I generally buy and sell for very different prices than on eBay. Sometimes it’s the only place to find something and you just have to go along, but more often than not, it’s just off the mark.

gatorcpa
Chrono24 I find totally useless as an archive because all you see is original asking prices, not the price at which the transactions actually happened.

Bingo. And this is why I deduct 25-35% of the prices. Who puts anything out for the actual he/she wants to sell the watch/part? There’s always room for negotiation. That is my experience. Now, someone called that arbitrary.

gatorcpa
Another good source would be smaller auction houses than deal with mid-range material.

Yes, I wrote that.

gatorcpa
One last thing, I’m going to ask you nicely to please turn down the snark in some of your posts. We try to be patient with appraisal requests, but when they start coming in bunches, I think you can understand why this rubs some members the wrong way.

Thank you in advance for understanding.
gatorcpa

When I’m being snarked at for no reason, I snap back.

Just for the record, I haven’t seen anyone lose patience on my first (and only, I promise) valuation question on this forum. And I didn’t know there was a traffic jam.

(This is just so dumb. I had no idea people valuing their time so highly actually answer to make sure others understand their time is indeed too valuable to be answering but do it anyway)

gatorcpa · Sun. 4:51pm

C clockoclock
Just for the record, I haven’t seen anyone lose patience on my first (and only, I promise) valuation question on this forum. And I didn’t know there was a traffic jam.

(This is just so dumb. I had no idea people valuing their time so highly actually answer to make sure others understand their time is indeed too valuable to be answering but do it anyway)

OK, I’m done here. I gave it my best try, but you couldn’t help yourself. I’ll just ignore your posts from here on out.
gatorcpa

Dan S · Sun. 5:14pm

C clockoclock
(This is just so dumb. I had no idea people valuing their time so highly actually answer to make sure others understand their time is indeed too valuable to be answering but do it anyway)

Scottyads
After reading some of these replies it reminds me why i left a couple years ago, why people feel the need to reply with negative comments rather than just keeping quiet is beyond me...

Two more satisfied customers.

iosist · Sun. 9:28pm

Scottyads
After reading some of these replies it reminds me why i left a couple years ago, why people feel the need to reply with negative comments rather than just keeping quiet is beyond me, the comment from masteroftime is just baffling the whole perpose of forums is for people to share knowledge if i already had that knowledge i wouldn’t be asking and if i could find that out myself i would, but i dont know 10s of thousands of Omega enthusiasts to ask advise hence why i reached out here. It really does give forums a bad name and you really dont make people feel comfortable when asking for advice.

Conversely, exchanges like this are exactly why I keep coming back.

Just to spell something out explicitly that may be getting lost for some: eBay research doesn't mean just doing a search for the item. Doing so using the filter for sold listings will yield some results, but what you really need is the product research tool in the seller tab.

Porteroso · Sun. 10:07pm

C clockoclock
That’s a good question. I generally buy and sell for very different prices than on eBay. Sometimes it’s the only place to find something and you just have to go along, but more often than not, it’s just off the mark.

Bingo. And this is why I deduct 25-35% of the prices. Who puts anything out for the actual he/she wants to sell the watch/part? There’s always room for negotiation. That is my experience. Now, someone called that arbitrary.

Yes, I wrote that.

When I’m being snarked at for no reason, I snap back.

Just for the record, I haven’t seen anyone lose patience on my first (and only, I promise) valuation question on this forum. And I didn’t know there was a traffic jam.

(This is just so dumb. I had no idea people valuing their time so highly actually answer to make sure others understand their time is indeed too valuable to be answering but do it anyway)

Anyone who knows anything values their time. A lot of these guys are interested in the community aspect, and while random requests are welcome, you can't build community with people who expect questions answered, and then leave.

clockoclock · 2025-12-15T02:50:21-0600

Porteroso
Anyone who knows anything values their time. A lot of these guys are interested in the community aspect, and while random requests are welcome, you can't build community with people who expect questions answered, and then leave.

Dan S
Two more satisfied customers.

Customers? A discussion forum is for discussing and participation is voluntary.

Read your answers one more time. It’s you, not me, who’s answers got condensed with attitude in the first place:
”Respectfully, I think you have a lot to learn.”
”deducting some arbitrary amount from C24 listings (or dealer sites) is silly and pointless”
”If you or the OP wants other enthusiasts to help you, I'd suggest cultivating relationships with a back and forth by sharing information. Develop a network. Then, if you develop credibility, people will reach out to you for advice, and you can ask the same in return. Otherwise, just be grateful for whatever feedback you get, nobody is obligated to help you sell your watches.”
” Haha, I just noticed this other thread where you are asking members to evaluate seven watches for you.
How dare we not give you free appraisals! It's so unfair! ::facepalm1::

”

clockoclock · 2025-12-15T03:04:29-0600

Porteroso
Anyone who knows anything values their time. A lot of these guys are interested in the community aspect, and while random requests are welcome, you can't build community with people who expect questions answered, and then leave.

There’s nothing in my posting history here where I’m only out to get free answers. As for the community aspect, it seems that some are so entangled in their own importance and form closed circles. A hard core, that expects people to behave like hang arounds before being accepted. I have enough knowledge to steer myself around in the watch collecting world and yes, my time is also limited and valuable. I may not be able to use eBay properly (it’s just a mess. I compare it with US airports to European airports), but I know other resources.

Scottyads · 2025-12-15T05:12:26-0600

Im really regretting asking and unfortunately i cant delete my question 🤦‍♂️

hen · 2025-12-15T05:36:58-0600

Time for cats, random theme, not at all relevant to this discussion.

Peemacgee · 2025-12-15T06:09:54-0600

Scottyads
Im really regretting asking and unfortunately i cant delete my question 🤦‍♂️

Don't regret asking the question - I've been following the thread and you were getting entirely reasonable answers (admittedly along with some forthright advice) until a third party decided to take offence and derail your thread.

Let's look at your watch.
It's the less common dome-dial, no-date version of a late 60s Constellation, presumably housing the excellent cal 551 movt.
It is a front loader (which means the dial is often in good condition) and slightly smaller than its 60s brethren.
It is gold capped.
The reference style is not the most popular with collectors but those who like them seem to really like them.

Because they are smaller and aren't so popular they can be a difficult sell and the pie pan, SS versions tend to be more popular than dome dial gold capped versions.

It would be useful to have some in-focus pictures, as condition is everything and you can't actually tell anything about the watch, with any certainty, from the pics you posted.

I'm slightly concerned that you bought the watch from Omega Addict as his watches tend to be (severely) overpriced - but at least they are generally as described. (by concerned, I mean you may be expecting the watch to be worth more than it is on the open market)

If it is in really decent condition it is probably worth around $1000 in a private / eBay sale but if two people really want it, it could fetch more.

Comparison with a C case isn't really that helpful as the C case references are also outliers in the 60s Constellation world and have their own devoted following -and even C cases had a value hiatus a couple of years ago and now have settled back down in price.

I hope that helps.

Scottyads · 2025-12-15T07:11:25-0600

Peemacgee
Don't regret asking the question - I've been following the thread and you were getting entirely reasonable answers (admittedly along with some forthright advice) until a third party decided to take offence and derail your thread.

Let's look at your watch.
It's the less common dome-dial, no-date version of a late 60s Constellation, presumably housing the excellent cal 551 movt.
It is a front loader (which means the dial is often in good condition) and slightly smaller than its 60s brethren.
It is gold capped.
The reference style is not the most popular with collectors but those who like them seem to really like them.

Because they are smaller and aren't so popular they can be a difficult sell and the pie pan, SS versions tend to be more popular than dome dial gold capped versions.

It would be useful to have some in-focus pictures, as condition is everything and you can't actually tell anything about the watch, with any certainty, from the pics you posted.

I'm slightly concerned that you bought the watch from Omega Addict as his watches tend to be (severely) overpriced - but at least they are generally as described. (by concerned, I mean you may be expecting the watch to be worth more than it is on the open market)

If it is in really decent condition it is probably worth around $1000 in a private / eBay sale but if two people really want it, it could fetch more.

Comparison with a C case isn't really that helpful as the C case references are also outliers in the 60s Constellation world and have their own devoted following -and even C cases had a value hiatus a couple of years ago and now have settled back down in price.

I hope that helps.

Thanks for the reply, that helps a lot, much appreciated

Passover · 2025-12-15T07:16:28-0600

[Having skipped the middle part of this thread]

One just popped up for sale in Switzerland at a 'Craiglist' auction, starting price 960SFR

https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/omega-chronometer-constellation-automatic-stahl-gold-1306192468/

Scottyads · 2025-12-15T07:21:50-0600

Wow thats very

Passover
[Having skipped the middle part of this thread]

One just popped up for sale in Switzerland at a 'Craiglist' auction, starting price 960SFR

https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/omega-chronometer-constellation-automatic-stahl-

Wow thats very interesting thankyou, definitely one of the only ones ive actually seen which is exactly the same, ill keep an eye on it, thanks again 👍

rendo · 2025-12-15T08:07:03-0600

Feelings get hurt so easily these days...

Anyway, I hope this helps the OP who asked an honest question:

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A couple more data points and a simple step-by-step for a quick search on eBay in similar situations:

1. Gather similar references, in this case from Dsio's article: 168.015, 168.025, 167.015 & 167.025

2. Quick eBay search including the references in parentheses, separated by commas:

3. Initial results will be for active threads, but checking the "Sold" on the left will give you completed sales:

Link to the search string: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=omega++(168.015,+168.025,+167.015,+167.025)&_sacat=0&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1

4. As stated above, not a common reference, but you can find a similar watch recently sold for $601 in the U.S.:

Edit: 5. Adjust the price references based on case material, condition, originality and other aesthetics

Separately, I recently bought a stainless 168.015 on OF for $450, but the watch needed a service:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-constellation-ref-168-015.186393/

Thread 'Omega Constellation Ref. 168.015' ·

Omega Constellation Ref. 168.015 ca.1966-67 on a vintage Bonklip bracelet. Watch is in excellent condition for being nearly 60 and is completely original, down to its dial, hands, crown and...

SOLD

$ 450 USD

doretta59 · Sep 10, 2025

Peemacgee · 2025-12-15T08:16:19-0600

Passover
[Having skipped the middle part of this thread]

One just popped up for sale in Switzerland at a 'Craiglist' auction, starting price 960SFR

https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/omega-chronometer-constellation-automatic-stahl-gold-1306192468/

This is a useful guide point - but the case on this one is really quite soft and I suspect the OP's watch has a better case (but we need some decent photos to be sure)

Scottyads · 2025-12-15T13:09:25-0600

Peemacgee
This is a useful guide point - but the case on this one is really quite soft and I suspect the OP's watch has a better case (but we need some decent photos to be sure)

I hope this helps, thankyou for your time

Peemacgee · 2025-12-15T15:18:57-0600

Gold (and gold capped ) watches are difficult to photograph unless the lighting is just right - but you can see the case a little more clearly now.
The facets are there but the case has seen some polishing.

I think the $1000 estimate is about right as the dial looks really good.

Help with valuation 167.015

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