Hi All. I am considering the purchase Turler branded chronograph from the 40s-50s. Photo below.

The seller was told when he purchased it that it was made by Heuer... To me it has some similarities to UG chronographs of the era. Just calling on the expertise of the board for opinions as to whether UG may have manufactured this piece.

many thanks!

-36mm
-unsigned valjoux 92 movement
-unsigned crown
-inside caseback reads 'acier inoxydable staybright' swiss made with a serial number just over 100,000.

 

Not with a Valjoux 92 inside

 

Not with a Valjoux 92 inside

perfect. thank you. much appreciated.

 

Unsigned is not made by Heuer I guess

 

With watches that are not "double branded", such as this one, it was simply a matter of the retailer sourcing parts and finishing the watches in-house. So, even if the watch featured a movement used by Heuer, it would not have been "made" by Heuer.

 

Unsigned is not made by Heuer I guess

i was thinking the same thing... 'on the dash' only has double branded turler watches.

 

Al that said ... very attractive vintage chronograph for what should be short money.

 

With watches that are not "double branded", such as this one, it was simply a matter of the retailer sourcing parts and finishing the watches in-house. So, even if the watch featured a movement used by Heuer, it would not have been "made" by Heuer.

interesting... thanks. I was wondering if Turler could be doing something like this.

the bridge of the movement on this piece simply has '17 rubis' on it...

the dial has some strong similarities to some UG and Heuer chronos of the era... but with some subtle differences.

heuer 347AR


UG uni-compax -

 

Al that said ... very attractive vintage chronograph for what should be short money.

yeah - i like it quite a bit, too.

i'm not sure what short money is exactly... hahaha... honestly, i'm having a hard time coming up with a fair value.

 

Nice-looking piece, what is the size? I think you would just buy it at the no-name price.

 

I think it means not much as in cheap. Nice looking watch. I like the larger sub dials that I’ve seen on the Heuer brand. Nice patina too

 

Nice-looking piece, what is the size? I think you would just buy it at the no-name price.

case size is listed as 36mm x 43mm

 

I think it means not much as in cheap. Nice looking watch. I like the larger sub dials that I’ve seen on the Heuer brand. Nice patina too

yeah - figured short money meant cheap... just that 'short money' can mean quite different things to different people.

I think it is a good quality piece... movement looks good, case and dial are in nice condition.

 

Not UG but very attractive ! Would definitely wear it

 

It looks very appealing to me with the big subs
depends on the price IMO

 

I know it is not UG... but i wanted to update the thread with some pictures. I made a deal to purchase the watch. If anyone can provide any further insights on this one I would appreciate it.

I have requested some information for Turler... but not sure if it will be forthcoming.

 

Türler, in contrast to another well-known Swiss retailer, Gübelin, often did not finish their house branded watches particularly well. However, even setting aside the spartan finish, I do wonder a bit about that movement. Also, the case is unsigned.

It may well be fully original, as I believe that the dial to be properly signed, and the case appears to be of good quality, but it would be comforting to receive confirmation from Türler.

 

I have happened across a couple other examples with unsigned cases and movements which gives me some confidence that it is original... but you are right hearing from Turler would be reassuring.

https://www.stetzcowatches.com/product/heuer-for-turler-valjoux-92-chronograph/

this one from HQ Milton has an oxidized dial... but pretty sure it is the same watch.

https://www.hqmilton.com/timepieces/romeym0k/vintage-turler-chronograph-with-tropical-dial-6802

 

Good research! And I agree.

 

could anyone tell me if the Turler has a 'Spillman' case? I see see 'Spillman' cases mentioned in listings but i'm not sure how to identify one. Thanks!