Hi all

Would like to receive some advice with this grail for me... the previous owner was keeping tell me that was all original but the bezel is clearly not, the hands and dial looks or relumed badly or something that I don't understand

There is any possibility to get with confidence this piece restored? It's possible to find a set of hands, should be silver or the white ones are correct? It's from the 65/66 the watch

I have extract of archives and in omega they told me that all was original except the bezel

It's one of my fav watch but it's killing me the poor condition atm.

Thank you in advance









Regards

 

It's a vintage watch - rather than try to replace parts or lume on that one, if you want one in better condiiton then buy one in better condition or even a "WatchCo" type rebuild which will be flawless.

 

Yes bezel insert is wrong, although the bezel itself is most likely genuine. Dial looks original from a cursory look, but obviously it has been poorly re lumed. You could have it sympathetically re lumed along with the hands which would improve the overall look a lot, although not original. Hands are correct for this ref.

 

Hour and minute hands should not be white, but unpainted steel. Second hand should be white. As Ash said, hands are correct but the frame has been painted over.
Second hand is also the correct early teardrop one with longer tip and shorter body (well, depending on the serial no./production date from the extract - if you want to share). And is it a straight 165.014 or has it a subreference, i.e. 165.014-63 or 165.014-64?

 

Amazing guys... will get the info in a minute

 

The case back...

 

From the extract



Thank you sirs

 

Thank you Ash for your reply, any recommendation where to have it relumed?

Thank you again

 

One more info that i was told by the seller and in omega was well, the bracelet its a #12 "US market"... I assume that that is the same as the 7206 and the American Rivets in rolex...

 

Thank you Kox.... a stupid question: It would be possible to remove this paint and leave correct the hands?

really appreciate your help guys!

 

Stupid question ( my specialty), but is this a definite relume? To me it looks like all original lume that is just coming off.

 

Your serial 2379x and production date is ok for a 165.014 without subreference and in line with a handful of others in that serial range.
It's among some of the last 165.014's and correct with the T marked dial and these type of hands as mentioned. The absolut latest 165.014's are in the 242x range and produced early 1967. Some of those had the sword/gladiator hour hand like the 165.024 from that period.

So, the good news is that sourcing another correct dial won't be that difficult, since it's a T dial (unlike early 165.014's), and they are the most common SM300 dial, since it was also used on the 165.024. Finding one in a nice condition is however still hard...and pricy!

And yes, you could remove the white paint from you hands.
Again, all depends on what you want. If you like it to be as close to original as possible - with nice original lume, source another correct dial and matching hands, and perhaps get the bezel inlay redone to more correct specs (Aldo). All in all a task that could take some time and be, yes, pricy!

Or ... since both hands, dial and bezel already have been worked on (perhaps not completely relumed, but at least touched up in several places - better macro pictures please, especially of the damaged areas of the 5 min. markers on the dial)... And you "just" want it looking nicer, get the dial/hands properly cleaned/scraped and then relumed by a pro ... and perhaps leave the bezel inlay.

Whatever your poision, enjoy;-)

 

You might consider giving thr entire watch to Aldo (he is a member here) for restoration.
The good news is he can make the watch look fantastic (although still have the teltail signs of restoration).
I purchased a 14755 a while back that featured a restored bezel, dial, hands and service. Bad part is that it took the seller 2 years to wait for completion.

 

Thank you very much sir... will prepare some macro photos asap... incredible the explanation... appreciated

Thank you very much... will try to speak with Aldo to see what we can do

Again thank you all

 

Hi again kox...

Made some macros

 

Thank you very much sir!

Regards

 

One thing that I didn't understand correctly... this unit could come with the 3 white hands? Thank you