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Help with my first chronograph! Pawn find.

  1. Spartcom5 Feb 14, 2017

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    Hey everyone. I picked this watch up the other day for $180. Fair deal? Gold plated bezel although I am not 100% sure on that as it hasn't been tested. 38mm case. The watch itself is in great original condition, runs nicely and keeps time but the functions don't work. Never been redialed which is pretty rare I could imagine? Movement looks clean. I think it's a Venus 188, can anyone confirm this? When would this have been made? 1950s? Also, I assume Lincoln is just some unknown brand? Any info anyone can provide would be great!! This is my first vintage/mechanical chrono, I love the way it looks for sure. Thank you!
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  2. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Feb 14, 2017

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  3. Lukeeesteve Feb 14, 2017

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    That is an awesome find. Congratulations.
     
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  4. Vitezi Feb 14, 2017

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    This source suggests that "Lincoln" was a brand name owned by Bulova. Mikrolisk confirms that Lincoln was a registered wordmark of Bulova, although I seem to recall that Bulova had an early model known as the "Lincoln" so take this attribution with a degree of scepticism. A little bit of searching will find several different models featuring the Lincoln brand name, with dial and case styles suggesting that the brand lived until the 1970s.
     
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  5. Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Feb 14, 2017

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    I'd say plated but in very good condition. Nice patinated dial, applied indices ... lovely. If this said UG on it it's a much more expensive watch! At $180 it's a great pick up.
     
  6. Spartcom5 Feb 14, 2017

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    Would you guys say 1950s?
     
  7. Edward53 Feb 15, 2017

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    Congrats on your purchase. That's a nice first chrono and a gift at that price! The Venus 188 has an excellent reputation and was used in several big name chronos. It certainly looks like one and there should be a 188 on the movement near or under the balance wheel. I think this is late 50s or early 60s. Lovely untouched dial and GP in excellent order makes it well worth the cost of servicing.
     
  8. Vitezi Feb 15, 2017

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    The source Chronograph Wristwatches: To Stop Time suggests that, in general terms, the highest speed reading on the tachometer scale is a means of dating a chronograph. Chronographs made in the twenties have scales that reach 300-360kph; in the thirties scales reach 400, and by 1940 scales of 500 can be found. By 1950, top numbers were 750-800, in line with the increasing speeds of autombiles and aircraft. Your example reads 800, so late 1940s to 1950 is about right, and is consistent with the dial and case style.
     
  9. U5512 Feb 15, 2017

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    $180 is fair deal and I am sure you can get your money back if you don't like it. Congrats!!!
     
  10. sxl2004 Feb 15, 2017

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    Great looking watch and a steal.
    Gold plating is consistent with the sub branding.
    Enjoy
     
  11. GuiltyBoomerang Feb 15, 2017

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    Very nice! The Venus 188 is a great movement and will run well once serviced. Here was mine from a while back:

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  12. ajg1960 Feb 15, 2017

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    Awesome find. I don't know anything about the brand, but it's great looking. I'll give you $185 right now :)
     
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  13. Spartcom5 Feb 18, 2017

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    Got my watch back today.... HATE the band it's on, needs a new one, suggestions? Also, all the functions are working and it runs great. Didn't get a service and oil as I'm currently getting my Seamaster fixed up. Anyways, here it is! Almost too big for my small wrist lol, never thought I'd have that problem with a vintage watch....
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  14. ahsposo Most fun screen name at ΩF Feb 19, 2017

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  15. Edward53 Feb 20, 2017

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    I put a tan leather Hirsch strap on this one which is also powered by a Venus 188. Works for me.
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