I am looking at purchasing this 105.012-66 and need some help with verifying it’s originiality. The serial number of the movement is 2544XXX which I believe is correct for production. Dial looks to be resumed. However I am not sure about the handset and crown. Any advice would be appreciated!

 

Terrible relume job, wrong second hand (at least), heavily polished case ...
I'd suggest you keep looking

 

I'm surprised the owner of that hasn't pulled the bezel to sell separately, since it's beautiful and the rest of it.... isn't. Might be the most over-polished Speedy case I've ever seen, which is kind of odd since the caseback isn't bad at all.

 

Unattractive dial, whether the lume is original or not, service hands and a horribly polished case.
On the plus side the bezel is reasonably good and the pushers are original and correct.
Still not at attractive package to me I'm afraid.

 

Everything has a price ! if the watch is sold below 2500 € it can be a good buy

I agree with you on the bezel and the caseback, the rest has absolutely no interest

 

If the price is good, then buy it.
I think it is worth about 5k eur in parts!

 

Movement will need a service. Check the position of the regulateur.

 

The fact that it has its original crown & pushers makes it an OK candidate for restoration, IMO - though I am not sure if the kind of case work required to bring this back to anything resembling the original dimensions is even possible. If it were, it would definitely not be cheap. Certainly not cost effective vs. simply buying a good example nowadays, but I think this is a watch that deserves to be rehabilitated

 

Someone put chewing gum on the plots...

 

The "professionnal" police look strange or it's just me?

 

Very unattractive example, but old Speedmaster values have reached the point where there’s always a value for parts alone.

That said, I’m not sure there’s much here....

You have an overall nice bezel with some chips and a dent - $2K?

The dial would need to be scraped and then re-lumed correctly, which is a pain and comes with additional costs. Not a ton of value for relumed dials.

The seconds hand is incorrect for the reference; given matching patina you’d likely need to sell them as a set for a 145.022, which makes them less valuable and less rare. Hundreds, not thousands.

Not sure who would want to buy that case.... most people looking for 105.012 cases are looking to upgrade their poor cases. This one has been viciously polished so can’t see it as much of an upgrade for anyone, meaning this would be bought either by someone building a Franken or you’d need to have a case refinish done to make it legitimately sellable.

The movement has some value, particularly if you get a 105.012 extract. $2k?

All in, I say $5k, and that’s if youre willing to hustle pretty hard and invest some money in improving a few parts.

 

Hope you find something better out there

 

Pass

Not sure why anyone would want grey lume...

 

agreed, very chewed up case, with an amateur relume job.

 

I'm thinking that the bezel should be worth much more than that, I'd say 2.5/2.8€k