Hi guys, / EDIT / The watch in this initial post is crooked, please have a look at my post below: https://omegaforums.net/threads/help-to-find-out-if-this-2505-is-almost-original.78611/#post-1001943 / EDIT / I'm planning to buy an 2505-28 and was wondering how many parts of this watch are for real original, especially regarding the dial. I don't expect a 100% original watch (cause I probably don't want to pay that much), but don't waste money for sure. The seller described that the dial has been refreshed, but all parts are original. What are your thoughts? Best jsma
That dial is all sorts of crooked and drives me nuts just looking at it. The 12 marker, logo, center pinion, small seconds, and 6 marker are not even close to being lined up. I'd pass.
It all depends upon what you are looking for. This forum caters to collectors, all of whom will never look at a watch where "the dial has been refreshed." So from our perspective, we think you would waste your money for sure. Instead, if you're interested in vintage watches, we recommend that you first read all of the information available (for free) on this forum before you part with your cold, hard cash on a crappy watch. Here are a few threads to get you started: https://omegaforums.net/threads/for-the-new-members-read.23288/ https://omegaforums.net/threads/condition-condition-condition-and-other-pieces-of-advice.1716/ https://omegaforums.net/threads/learn-how-to-fish.52603/ If vintage Omega is your interest, browse some threads on this forum: https://omegaforums.net/forums/vintage-omega-watches-help-discussion-and-advice.23/. Learn about what makes a watch valuable. Ask questions about watches that interest you. Have fun. Welcome to the forum!
At the very least, the dial is replaced/refinished and the crown is replaced. I've usually seen dauphine hands, but I think this style can also be correct.
Thanks a lot, really appreciated! I'll dig deeper into it. Well I don't look at the watch from a collectors point of view, I'm not looking for a 100% perfect and original one to put in the safe. I'm looking for a watch with a price that meets the condition of the watch, I don't want to burn money anyways. I will wear it on a daily basis and it'll probably get some (additional) scratches while wearing it all the time, and I'm ok with it. So if it says "this has been refreshed" alright, if it reflects in the price. Hope you understand what I do have in mind. At least that's what I was asking myself (and the forum) when looking at the watch above. Hope it's ok to ask (if not I'll edit the post), if I'd pay let's say 1200€ for it (thats not the price the seller wants), insane or OK related to the characteristics of the watch (no papers by the way)?
Why would you spend so much on a watch with a repainted dial? I don't understand. Just wait for a legit example.
1200 eur is way too much. If you could find someone to buy this watch I doubt it would go for more than 300 eur. The problem is that I don't think this watch could sell.
Oh some poor sap will buy it at €1200, such is the nature of fashion at the moment. But given the misaligned center pinion and small seconds, i frankly have doubts as to whether this watch actually functions
Though many of us are collectors, looking for 100% perfect examples to put in a safe does not describe us. Most here collect because we love watches, and wear them. So it looks like you're on the same page as most of us in that regard. Then do not buy this watch. I would pay $0 for it personally, but even if you love it, equal (or better) examples can be found in abundance for a fraction of that price. My advice that I always give to people who are interested in vintage watches: Be patient. Like, really patient... Take a few months to read everything you can find about the 2505-28, and compare the differences in various examples that you find until you feel like you can discern a good example from a bad. Most people new to the hobby get depressed at that suggestion, because it takes away the instant gratification they had in mind when they decided they wanted a vintage watch. If you find that suggestion less than exciting, then I suggest you buy a modern watch instead. Buying modern is one of the only ways to avoid these pitfalls. So, if you're into vintage, then you better just learn to love these pitfalls and become knowledgeable on the references that interest you. Once you feel that you are knowledgeable, then bring us what you find and we will help you out with anything you might have missed. best of luck.
this is looking great, nice watches! I already kept looking for some months and do have this one on my notepad. https://www.chrono24.com/omega/amazing-omega-38mm-oversize-jumbo--id8141586.htm the condition is not mint but Looks good to me. any thoughts?
These close ups are more convincing to me. Interested to hear other opinions! Edit - I think pointed top A and these hands are OK for a 13 million serial
this is looking great! Much appreciated connieseamaster, bigsom! Any other thoughts if this may be a good shot?
This second one looks straight. For a daily wearer, you need the dial to look great, because that's what you look at. Connieseamaster mentioned crookedness of the first dial. Even if you liked the look of the "refreshment", the crookedness of indices & printed items would drive you nuts.