Hi folks, new here. This watch was inherited from my father. It was a gift to him from his father as he was entering WW2. I was hoping that some of you nice UG folks here might be able to help 'fill in the blanks' of the information I've found so far.

The photos attached were taken within the last few weeks. The watch hasn't been worn or run since the late 60's. I've had it since the mid-90's. The watch is currently being restored by a reputable watchmaker here in DFW. It had some corrosion and rust problems. The bracelet, according to the watchmaker, is a gold "JG" (I think he said the first word of that was 'Juergen').

According to Mathias at UG it is a rare dial. Here is what he sent me:

My apologies in advance for the photo quality. These are the photos I sent to UG.

I've never seen this dial (or ref number) and I've never seen the "box" around the 481 on the movement.

I am grateful for, and appreciate, any information that you folks can give me. Dave

 

Beautiful!

 

I would get rid of that band though .. not good for the soft case.

 

I have not consulted Sala but that dial is very familiar ..

 

@LouS has one of them

 

Thank you Larry.
I've seen the gold XII before but I've not ever seen the 'XII' in a white circle... but then I've only been looking for about the last 6 weeks. I'd love to hear/see what Sala says or find out where I can see others.
Dave

 

From Sala: my concern is rounded 3’s.

 

Might not be a big deal.

 

Also the lack of “compax”

 

So much of this looks completely kosher though. Hopefully @LouS can weigh in.

 

I vote for redial: wrong font (the numerals); uncentered subdials; only two long markers in the minute subdial; "Soft" edges on the subdials...

Dave: Is a nice watch, wear it with pride

 

I wish I could see the example in Sala in color. The contrast between dial and sub-dial colors seem reversed compared to the OP's watch, so it could be a different version. Also, the Sala version also doesn't have the 60-second scale outside the Roman numerals. I agree that the missing "COMPAX" and 9-minute phone call marker are troubling.

 

Yea but these dials exist in a world of their own....so let’s see who else jumps in here. I do agree ... pretty watch none the less.

 

looks like a redial. Still a pretty watch and I would completely enjoy it as-is given the family history...

 

@dave w - Welcome. Nice avatar!

 

Thank you all for your thoughtful comments... this kind of detail is what I was looking for when I came here! I'm going to push my luck with Mathias at UG and see what he thinks about those differences since he said "Rare dial. We have a picture of the same dial in our archives." in his email to me.

Does anyone have any thoughts as to why the "481" on the movement has a box around it? I've not seen that either.

Thanks again, Dave

 

Cool look, back in the day, perspiration damaged dials, and many dials at servicing were routinely redialed, and or replaced by a service dial. Normal practice, so its probably a redial. Still very cool, so no stress wear it proudly!

 

Thanks ulackfocus, it's the avatar I also use on my fantasy football team Squirrelz On Drugz!

 

Looking at the quality of that dial definitely puts things into perspective.