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  1. prostie1200 May 23, 2014

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    Just had a couple of old watches arrive and would appreciate some advice before I attempt to open this case.
    The back seems to have a hexagonal nut - do I need a special tool - does it screw off or is it a clip fit.
    The watch is extremely dirty but virtually untouched for years. Oh yes and does the crown need replacing.
    Thanks chaps

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  2. ulackfocus May 23, 2014

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    You do know that's a redial, right?
     
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  3. prostie1200 May 23, 2014

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  4. prostie1200 May 23, 2014

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    Not really interested - just like the watch - the dial is immaterial to me just advice on opening it
     
  5. John R Smith May 23, 2014

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    This looks like an American 14k GF case with a 351 inside, perhaps by Jonell? I am pretty sure that this is a screw back, and there would have been a special tool to fit over the flats and turn the back off. Some older JLC cases use the same system.

    You could try my emergency system for screw-backs, which is a large lump of Blu Tack, kneaded in the hand till quite warm and squidgy, then press it down onto the back firmly and twist to undo. You do need a BIG lump of Blu Tack, though, to get the leverage - but it is safe and can't harm the watch.

    Good luck with it!
     
  6. prostie1200 May 23, 2014

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    Thanks John will give it a try
     
  7. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado May 23, 2014

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    Hate these with a passion. The back is two pieces, case back and threaded retainer ring.

    Here is one in solid gold which is even worse since the retainer ring is gold too.

    Without the correct wrench, this works best.

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  8. John R Smith May 23, 2014

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    Ah Ha, brilliant advice from Norm. Since the retainer ring is separate, my Blu Tack method cannot work, sadly.

    What you need is a tool like dat . . . but be very careful how much force you apply. It would be all too easy to distort the retainer ring.
     
  9. prostie1200 May 23, 2014

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    OMG that looks like a cruel machine - think I will wait until next Tuesday and let the WM do the business

    You must have nerves of steel to use that successfully especially on a soft gold case.

    Thanks with admiration
     
  10. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado May 23, 2014

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    BTW, its a Wadsworth case.

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  11. prostie1200 May 30, 2014

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    Did a Google and found the tool for the Wadsworth Case. It is tool #158 and the supplier has another two available at $5 each if anyone is interested
    in obtaining one they can mail me.

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  12. ulackfocus May 30, 2014

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    There are PLENTY of these 'many sixteenth' wrenches available at any hardware store.

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  13. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member May 31, 2014

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    On these cases that could be gunked up and need a tool to grip its worth getting a caseback opening ball:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HORB-Watch-...143?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7e71d43fPurchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    These things are a bit like that old Joke about the Russians using a pencil in space, the simple solution happens to be superb. Doesn't damage casebacks either, I used it on my Speedmasters so I didn't have to use the three-prong tool which tends to leave marks.