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Help! Omega coin watch, is from constellation line?

Thatguy
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Hello omega masters...
I want to ask something about this kind of coin watch.
I know that from AJTT they produced very few of them but I don't know if the coin watch was included inside the constellation line. And AJTT doesn't help either with this inquiry as the watch in the picture, the lid doesn't fully opened.
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Here's the link
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d433011621
What do you think?
Personally I was confused about the constellation being in the dial. And the logo is quite strange, the Omega legs aren't level to each other, while it's possible due to the misproduction or something, but still...
What do you guys think?
Thank you very much.
Best Regards
Thatguy
 
gatorcpa
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I’ve seen these before. Omega did some very strange things in the 1970’s.

This is just another example.
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
I’ve seen these before. Omega did some very strange things in the 1970’s.

This is just another example.
gatorcpa
But are they constellation though...?
The examples I've seen in Google are mainly only omega only, for the coins, pendants, or the wrist watch.
 
Evitzee
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Coin watches were sold by many brands, from Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Omega, Rolex and others. The making of the cases was a specialty operation and was not done by the manufacturers whose name appears on the dial, and the dials probably were done under contract by a single factory. The movements were the only real production item in the piece supplied by the manufacturers. Whether the Omega coin watches were part of the Constellation line, who knows, lots of quirky stuff was done back in the day on an ad hoc basis.
 
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Evitzee Evitzee
Coin watches were sold by many brands, from Patek Philippe, Vacheron Constantin, Omega, Rolex and others. The making of the cases was a specialty operation and was not done by the manufacturers whose name appears on the dial, and the dials probably were done under contract by a single factory. The movements were the only real production item in the piece supplied by the manufacturers. Whether the Omega coin watches were part of the Constellation line, who knows, lots of quirky stuff was done back in the day on an ad hoc basis.
So I notice the leg of the omega in the dial werw a bjt crooked, it's normal as it wasn't made by omega in the first place?
 
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So I notice the leg of the omega in the dial werw a bjt crooked, it's normal as it wasn't made by omega in the first place?
The picture that shows the full dial is about 9X the actual size of the watch (I checked against my own coin watch (not Omega)), so any slight misalignment is going to be easier to spot and critique. Almost every coin watch dial is the same, a gilt dial with painted long, thin black indicies with thin, black painted baton hands. I would almost guarantee the dial was made by a dial company that made all the coin dials over the years for the various brands, imprinting whatever the end user wanted on the dial. It looks fine to me. I wouldn't obsess over that kind of detail that you are seeing. .
 
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Evitzee Evitzee
The picture that shows the full dial is about 9X the actual size of the watch (I checked against my own coin watch (not Omega)), so any slight misalignment is going to be easier to spot and critique. Almost every coin watch dial is the same, a gilt dial with painted long, thin black indicies with thin, black painted baton hands. I would almost guarantee the dial was made by a dial company that made all the coin dials over the years for the various brands, imprinting whatever the end user wanted on the dial. It looks fine to me. I wouldn't obsess over that kind of detail that you are seeing. .
Cool! Would you like to show the picture of yours?
Oh well... So... If any of the attempts to redial on this watch it would be a blind spot then?
 
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There were quite a few examples of the cal 700 solid gold balance movements placed in Constellations, including a desk version. These are Montre bijoux pieces and the movement is a work of art, simple and modernistic but beautifully finished where it counts. They were produced in a limited edition of 12500 movements, the blanks produced by Frederick Piguet and finished and adjusted at Omegas Rayville factory. Coin versions were few in numbers and designated for the US I believe, so in numbers they are rare. Certainly an example for a specialist collector.

cheers

Desmond
 
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PS the case was made for Omega by Guyot and Co in La Chaux-de-Fonds
 
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mondodec mondodec
There were quite a few examples of the cal 700 solid gold balance movements placed in Constellations, including a desk version. These are Montre bijoux pieces and the movement is a work of art, simple and modernistic but beautifully finished where it counts. They were produced in a limited edition of 12500 movements, the blanks produced by Frederick Piguet and finished and adjusted at Omegas Rayville factory. Coin versions were few in numbers and designated for the US I believe, so in numbers they are rare. Certainly an example for a specialist collector.

cheers

Desmond
Saw a few of them mostly only bears the Omega only though, I haven't seen the constellation coin watch from the research in the Google
 
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I haven't seen the constellation coin watch from the research in the Google
Did I not post one above?
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Oops... Sorry about that, I missed it... :whipped:
Now it's tempting to get one of those, if only the world is not during the crisis.
The price is similar with the Omega Constellation Deluxe/grand luxe, in your personal opinion would you rather had this one or the grand luxe/deluxe connies?
gatorcpa gatorcpa
Did I not post one above?
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The price is similar with the Omega Constellation Deluxe/grand luxe, would you rather had this one or the grand luxe/deluxe connies?

Not wishing to speak for @gatorcpa, but since this is an ‘Omega watch collectors’ forum’ rather than a ‘novelty wrist ornament containing an Omega watch forum’ - unless you have every other Constellation known to man already in your collection, I think the answer to your question is fairly obvious.
 
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Not wishing to speak for @gatorcpa, but since this is an ‘Omega watch collectors’ forum’ rather than a ‘novelty wrist ornament containing an Omega watch forum’ - unless you have every other Constellation known to man already in your collection, I think the answer to your question is fairly obvious.
I see... Thank you so much for your great insight! It's my first time seeing this one which made me a little bit surprised.
 
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The price is similar with the Omega Constellation Deluxe/grand luxe,
That’s probably due to gold content, nothing more. A $20 gold piece had about $1,600 of gold at current prices, although a lot of that 90% gold was replaced by non previous metals for the movement and hinges.

No way that is worth $4,000, though.
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