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Help Needed!!! Potential purchase of Ed White 105.003-64

  1. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    Hi

    I'm hoping that some of the Speedmaster experts here can help me. I'm new the Speedmaster world, and just like other vintage watches there is a lot to learn. I've certainly done my fair share of reading, but I'm hoping you might be able to give me your thoughts on this Ed White that I'm 99.9% close to purchasing. It's not the best example but I believe the price that I'm getting is very fair all things considered

    Here is the watch - it clearly has a replacement dial. But it has a DON bezel, 1039 bracelet, correct 321 movement with the serial # falling within the correct range for this production run.

    Any comments would be greatly appreciated. I don't want to make this about price but I'd be happy to hear what you think would be a reasonable price given current condition

    Thanks in advance

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  2. Taddyangle

    Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Apr 6, 2016

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    service dial

    there is more.

    what is going on there?

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  3. sky21

    sky21 Apr 6, 2016

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    The chrono hand is a replacement and potentially the other hands as well. Have you seen a pic of the caseback to confirm the reference stamp? It really depends on how accurate you want the watch to be. I think it's going to be very difficult to find a correct vintage dial and hands to make it correct. If you're ok with that then maybe go for it if the price is right. Don't buy it as a collector piece, buy it to enjoy it and wear it. My estimate would be maybe $7k-$9k, but that's just a guess assuming everything other than the dial and hands is correct.
     
  4. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    I believe that US imports were Unadjusted. So this matches with th OXG stamp too.
     
  5. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    @Taddyangle @sky21

    Here is the caseback - I'm trying to figure out what the leading 6 or B is. Any ideas?

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  6. Taddyangle

    Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Apr 6, 2016

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    should be leading S?
     
  7. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    The biggest issue is going to be the dial. Ed white dials are not easy to find and expensive when/if found.

    Given the dial and the general state, I'd hope not more than $6.5K or so as a nice dial will probably run you about $2K if you can find one.
     
  8. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    Thanks @oddboy - sorry for this may seems like a silly question. But could you please tell me what the OXG stamp signifies? What does this mean? Does unadjusted simply that the watch has was shipped before final adjustment? Even asking this question seems odd but I have to educate myself. Your help is appreciated.
     
  9. Taddyangle

    Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Apr 6, 2016

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    IF you can find one.
     
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  10. smitty190373

    smitty190373 Apr 6, 2016

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    Ecuador?
     
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  11. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    Swiss watches shipped to US were stamped with OXG which is Omega's code for US. These were typically 'unadjusted' so as to reduce import tax costs. It's still a 321, and can certainly run with the same accuracy as an adjusted one. It's not really a concern as far as I know.
     
  12. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    Here's another caseback for reference, swiped from the interwebs.. Looks like an S and looks normal.

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  13. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    Yes - it was posted on eBay for a couple of hours. I've been in communication with seller and have come to an agreement. But I just wanted to do a few last minute checks before sending the funds.

    That and I'm waiting for him to send me a pic of the watch set to a specific time which I requested so that I can prove he has possession of the watch.
     
  14. Taddyangle

    Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Apr 6, 2016

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    I think there is a sticky for that.....
     
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  15. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    ...it would be interesting to get an extract later and see if it was actually sent to US by omega.

    But if this is the Ecuador one on ebay, tread carefully and be sure to pay with PP backed by Cc. You may need to get your money back.
     
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  16. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    Even if I just look at the parts alone - DON bezel, 1039 and 321 movement all add up pretty quickly. If I keep it for a while and if I'm unsuccessful in sourcing a new dial I really just want to make sure I can get my money back out.
     
  17. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    Just be aware about the dial issue.. be prepared to pay ~$2K for a decent one, more for a nice one.
     
  18. Zuke

    Zuke Apr 6, 2016

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    Is Ecuador a know hotspot for frauds?
     
  19. smitty190373

    smitty190373 Apr 6, 2016

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    Someone I know enquired yesterday.. he was told the seller had agreed £3k and was awaiting payment via paypal outside eBay. He obviously wasn't paid. Seller has 50 ish feedback from April 16...all as a buyer. I posted the eBay link earlier today.
     
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  20. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Apr 6, 2016

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    How would you break it down for parts? Ie, how are you valuing the bits?