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Help! need1035 bracelet info from Speedmaster experts!

  1. wwhntr Feb 7, 2018

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    Found a full length (I believe 26 link) bracelet that appears to have original finish polished outer links and brushed inner links.

    All spring links are tight! Clasp is marked 1035 only, no qtr/yr stamp.

    Someone unfortunately, filed down the 516 end links to fit an earlier straight lug Speedmaster Also noticed links next to end links are about 1mm more narrow than thos on my 1039 bracelet.

    Do not have a 1035 bracelet with me or my Moonwatch Only book for reference. (Besides filed down 516 end pcs, I’m just not sure, looks almost too good.)

    Any help/comments would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. BenBagbag Feb 7, 2018

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    What is the question?
     
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  3. bama2141 Feb 7, 2018

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    Pictures would help...
     
  4. onthedial Feb 7, 2018

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    @wwhntr
    If you're wondering if a 1035 bracelet can be authentic without a quarter/date stamp the answer is yes.
     
  5. wwhntr Feb 7, 2018

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    My apologies, wrote message too quickly lacking clear questions!

    1) Thank you @onthedial for reading into my statement regarding lack of quarter/date being acceptable.

    2) Are the links next to end piece links 19mm on a 1035?
    (I did find a link on Speedmaster bracelets stating that 1035’s were initially fitted on 19mm straight lug watches using 506 end piece links.)

    3) Would you agree that the filed down to 19mm 516 end links have little/no value?

    4) What $ value would you put on an almost “new old stock” condition 1035 without proper endlinks?
    (Finish of links are as new looking as any I’ve seen and spring links are as tight as any I’ve seen.)

    Failed to get pictures today. Will get pictures tomorrow and post.
     
  6. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 7, 2018

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    Last Links are about 17.6mm ish on 1035.

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  7. nonuffinkbloke #1 Nigel Mansell Fan Feb 7, 2018

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    Right then... we're waiting...::popcorn::
     
  8. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 7, 2018

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    The first 1035 bracelet had no date I believe. That would place production at late 1966 -1967
     
  9. wwhntr Feb 7, 2018

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    Thank you so much for your input! @gemini4 ! It is refreshing to receive thoughtful responses when a fellow forum member reaches out for advice/help!

    Care to put a $ value on a 1035 as I’ve described???
     
  10. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 7, 2018

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    $1,000 -$1,500 depending on length and condition
     
  11. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 7, 2018

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    FYI, I seen a fewpairs of 19mm 516s, filed down years ago to fit an Ed White. They work ( and usually look) fine. Just not correct. Certainly have some value. IMHO, a better option than an aftermarket #6 end link.
     
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  12. wwhntr Feb 7, 2018

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    1) How many spring links should there be on an original, untouched bracelet? (If I remember correctly a full length bracelet has 26-27 links total, including spring links?)

    Links and clasp appear to have original finish. Spring links are tight, like new. Since everything but end links is correct and in excellent condition, it’s really hard to pass at $1,000, agree?
     
  13. omegastar Feb 8, 2018

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    That the measure when the bracelet was taken off a Seamaster or Constellation, the one that fits a Speedmaster should be 18,6 mm.
     
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  14. omegastar Feb 8, 2018

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    It does have a date when originally delivered with a watch, the no date ones are generally replacement service bracelets.
     
  15. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 8, 2018

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    I presumed the nodate 1035s were similar to the earliest 7077 which carry nodate. I notice MWO cannot confirm if nodates are replacements. According to THE chart below, 1035 production began in 1966. Yet, I don’t believe there are any 1035 braclelets with 1966 dates. Another reason why I believed the the dateless to be from 1966. Any others members with opinions ??

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  16. omegastar Feb 8, 2018

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    I have seen a 105.003 Speedmaster with original 1035 / 6 bracelet dated 67/4 and I have bought a service 1035 bracelet from the original owner who bought it at the time to replace a 19 mm. flat link bracelet on his Seamaster 120. It was in mint condition.
     
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  17. wwhntr Feb 8, 2018

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    Thanks @omegastar you have shed new light on this 1035. While very nice, I tend to conclude it may have not been intended for use on a Speedmaster.
     
  18. Taddyangle Convicted Invicta Wearer Feb 8, 2018

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    My 1035 is stamped 1/67.

    I also have 516 links that were filed down.
     
  19. bags1971 Feb 8, 2018

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    Mine is a 1035 with no date

    I also have a set of 516 links that were filed down to 19mm must of been a common thing to do?

    Was going to use the 516's but then found a set of 506's
     
  20. mr_yossarian Feb 8, 2018

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    ..sounds like the 516s are the 145.012s of the end link world: not many left in acceptable condition :)
     
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