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Help Identifying & Finding this 1935 Omega Tank with 20F Movement

  1. dall-houston Sep 29, 2017

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    I'm hoping the members here can help me identify this watch. I found this picture while searching the "Google" for 1920-1930's watches. I would like to purchase a watch just like this one. Something about the case and the dial seriously appeal to me.

    I have been searching for information about this watch for months. I have spent way to many hours searching the internet, internet forums, watch books, old watch advertisements, etc. trying to identify this watch. From what I've read while visiting your forum, many of you have knowledge about watches from this time period.

    I have found Omega's with cases very similar to this, but not this exact one.

    Based on Omega ads from 1935, the case is Staybrite and it has the 20F movement.

    Any help you can provide will be genuinely appreciated.
    Omega Tank - 1-1.jpg Omega Tank - 2.jpg Omega Tank - 3-3.jpg Omega Tank - 4-4.jpg
    Sincerely,

    Dall
     
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  2. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 29, 2017

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    https://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/heritage/vintage-details/20426/

    Pre WWII watches are a little hard to find identical examples of... either from redialing, or the pure rarity of them to begin with, and the variance of dials to begin with.

    The Omega database has it, or the brother/cousin of the one you posted above. Production date could be anywhere from 1920-1935 and maybe up to 1942 based on serial number. Omega database is not compelete and is inconsistent on how it describes things. I am not sure if the watch from that picture is that year, or the reference started that year, or???

    Another close one

    http://cda.chronomania.net/forum_entry.php?id=38793&PHPSESSID=3fbf42c52ac32bf609f3094e040c76c0

    I believe that the case is called the Dedalos, and its very pretty case and the dial you have posted is amazing looking but again not sure if it has been redialed, and those hands don't quite seem right for it.. then again I now little about these prewar guys.

    Some more info here.
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/omega-antique.12704/

    paging @Tire-comedon and @UncleBuck
     
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  3. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 30, 2017

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    hands were used in these models. the dial is re printed. the writing is too large. the font of the minute rail is ok. some original dials had the 2,3,4,5,7,8,10 and 11 markers enamel on silver base dial. originals will be hard to find these days. i sold one to the Omega Museum a few years back. have to find a picture ...... kind regards. achim


    my favourite winged case and dial:::::::::::::::: DSCN4785.jpg
     
  4. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 30, 2017

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  5. UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Sep 30, 2017

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    Yann, @Tire-comedon, discussed these at some lengths a couple of years ago and has a ton of the adverts.
    I'll try to find the discussion or perhaps he can help us.
    I have one that needs dial help. Achim, I hope your offer to help is still good, I procrastinate so badly!

    Dall-Houston, I hope you have seen one of these up-close, they are very small!

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  6. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Sep 30, 2017

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    Nice 20F It looks like a CK 964 or 969, difficult to say what was the difference based on catalog images. Here in a 1933 catalog :
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    Regarding datation, caliber 20F was created in 1929 and replaced by T17 in 1935 (although there probably were some 20Fsold later to empty stocks...). 'Staybrite was introduced by Omega as its new stainless steel in 1934. This probably dates yours around 1933-1935.
     
  7. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Sep 30, 2017

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    Nice CK 901.
    [​IMG]
    Mine says hello :
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    First one is a T17 ref CK994
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    One of mine says hello :
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    Second one is a CK 730 :
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    Which also existed with a T17 :
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    Mine says hello :
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    Third one is a CK 901(is it a T17 Inside or a 20F?)
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    Mine with T17 says hello :
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    What caliber is in the last one?
     
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  8. UncleBuck understands the decision making hierarchy Sep 30, 2017

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    AJTT says it's a 20F but the ad says T17?
    The ad is clear and yours has the T17, perhaps another error in AJTT?
    Wouldn't you rather have the T17 with it's amazing 60 hrs. of power?
    Yann, what does Ecart. Cornes mean?
     
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  9. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 30, 2017

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    the last one is caliber 20F and is the longest stainless steel version, i`ve seen so far. only the silver cases were larger. kind regards. achim
     
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  10. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 30, 2017

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    I linked that thread ;)
     
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  11. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Sep 30, 2017

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    Are you referring to the CK 901? It existed with both 20F and later with T17. I have both versions.
     
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  12. dall-houston Sep 30, 2017

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    Thank you for the information. From all the data provided here and another Omega ad I stumbled across, I'm inclined to believe this watch is a 969.20 that has been redialed.

    If it's of interest to any of you, I found a scanned copy of the 1937 Omega catalog. (Tell me where it should be posted.)
     
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  13. dall-houston Sep 30, 2017

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    Achim,

    If you can find and post the picture of the watch you sold to the Omega Museum, I would genuinely appreciate it.

    Dall
     
  14. Tire-comedon First Globemaster Sep 30, 2017

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    I am of course interested, and probably not the only one here. You could create a thread in this Omega vintage section.
     
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  15. dall-houston Sep 30, 2017

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    I haven't seen one in person, but the information I have says it's 23mm x 40mm. If that is correct I'm golden because I have small wrists. My 1928 Gruen Quadron is around that same size and the profile of the watch on my wrist is perfect!

    This is my 1928 Gruen Quadron.

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  16. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Sep 30, 2017

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    Post it here :)
     
  17. dall-houston Sep 30, 2017

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    I put it in a new thread. If you have any trouble finding the new thread let me know and I'll post it here also.
     
  18. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 30, 2017

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    i had a computer crash a few years ago and that old picture from the sale in 1999 was lost. might have it somewhere in a back up external drive..... no time to search these many,many 10001s of pics from the last 20 years. but i remeber it quite well. it was a winged case CK 901 with F 20 movement. the dial was a slightly aged like this one here....... (frame;big enamel 12 and cut off 6 . all markers in enamel and 2 tone silver dial; blued hands like the one in the pics.) kind regards. achim

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  19. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Sep 30, 2017

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    maybe John Diethelm has a picture from that deal......
     
  20. dall-houston Sep 30, 2017

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