Hi, all. Posting this for some expert help.

I bought this watch a long time ago as a new collector. I'm pretty sure I got lucky on the dial (?) and I love the case. Truly like this watch, a lot.

But... I had it open and found that the caseback is not for this model.

So now I'm very curious to know the reference on this watch. What do I have here? Any other thoughts also very welcome.

Thanks in advance.

 

Need to see pics of the caseback and the movement. My money is on a redial.

 

Whatever it is, it's cool as hell!

 

Most likely a redial. What is written in the case-back?

 

I vote its fake with only an Omega movement. I've seen this fake dial on several different "restored" Seamasters offered on eBay, etc.

It's supposed to be a reference 14350/14363 but the contours are wrong.

 

Thanks, folks. The caseback is for an Omega reference with a date, so no help at all there. 2849 9SC

My post was partly prompted by another thread "Condition Imperfect", which appears to contain pictures of a similar case. Hard to tell from the angles if it's exactly the same.

Inside: cal 471, 16 million SN, so circa 1958.

I've gone back and forth myself on whether it's a redial. If it is, is there any possibility that Omega did it? The quality is exceptionally good for a redial, that's for sure.

Keep the comments coming, I appreciate it a lot.

 

Fonts are wrong, compared to X350's example, so I'm betting on a modern, non-Omega redial. They're getting pretty competent.

 

Case back for a watch with a completely different design and movement.

Movement from who knows where.

Fake case top and fake dial, not refinished, FAKE.

 

Thanks, everyone. I'll take the advice. I'm surprised someone put all the effort into this watch. Finding the caseback, movement and crown is no big deal, but putting it together with a very good-looking set of markers, fonts, etc is a fair bit of work for not much return.

Obviously I didn't pay much for it, so in the end I'm happy to chalk it up to noob collecting, back in the day.

Thanks again.

 

It's a handsome watch, enjoy it for what it is.

 

Best looking fake dial and fake case for a vintage Omega. There's white dial as well. Quite a few of this out there. Case backs of the ones I've seen are also fake.

 

And then this pops up. Trusted seller in Canada. He has another one. Same markers, what say you all?

 

Lots of good information about Constellations here. Dive in and start reading about pie-pans, MOY-tests, cross-hairs, dog-legs, eight-stars, etc.

http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com

 

What exactly do you want to know? Although pictures are blurry that looks like a genuine 2852 connie. More pictures required of course.

 

Fair question. I hadn't seen those markers before. I'm aiming to figure out what bits of this watch are just made up, and how much of it is genuine Omega, pulled together with apparently considerable effort to create a Frankenwatch where the caseback is a dead giveaway.

It's hard for me to imagine that the amount of work that went into this generated a profit for whoever made it.

 

Labor in countries where these typically originate from is very cheap.

 

Vietnam is of the countries where dials like these are produced in large numbers. Or at least: the rumor goes

 

Actually, there are enormous numbers of fake and frankenized watches flooding the market with much less prestigious brand names on the dial. It's a simple matter to slap a watch like this together when labor is cheap, especially if you don't even bother to apply any lume to the dial or hands.

 

Very glad to know this detailed stuff and grateful for all the kind help. Best regards, Nick

 

The thing that jumped out to me most is that it just looks too new, and doesn't seem to have that vintage vibe... I guess it's the dial that is most troubling.

Having said that, it could have fooled me. Lovely overall design.